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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312   
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Munch90,
just been out to give it another shake and basically if I shake any of the wheels (front or back) as soon as the front starts moving left / right I can here the noise coming from the front somewhere? a quick visual and all of the bushes appear ok - the steering is in the straight forward position? I presume first and foremost - is this actually normal or not. for all I know it could actually be normal? |
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11th May 2015 8:36am |
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( no offence intended )| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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tracking rod and steering rod replaced and they've been checked so not loose.
this noise was there before replacing the above. reference your note below - sorry are you referring to the panhard rod or something relating to the steering box (sorry?). in the meantime I'll go have a look at the panhard rod. 
ah! forgot to mention. I know the defenders suspension isn't renowned for being silky smooth like a Citreon DS but I'm sure mine has become more crashy than usual. thought the new wheels/tyres might have been over inflated but they're right? |
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11th May 2015 8:57am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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yes panhard rod mounts from near bottom of steering box to axle near radius arm mounts ( rubber bushs in each end )
make sure bolts though all bushes are tight and look for brown dust all bushes could look all good , but movement/clunk could be between bolt and centre metal tube of the bush , make sure bolts are tight bet the neighbours think your mad keep going outside and wobbling your defender !  Last edited by munch90 on 11th May 2015 9:08am. Edited 1 time in total |
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11th May 2015 9:03am |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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Maybe this 'll help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqh1oH8mEqY
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11th May 2015 9:06am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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I wish I was at home - the neighbours as used to it.........I'm at work - god only knows what everyone thinks
thanks zone30 will have a looks. |
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11th May 2015 9:23am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17527  
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There's always some "drag" (as you call it) through a clutch when disengaged, due to friction in the spigot bearing and the possibility of friction in the clutch hub splines causing the driven plate still to be lightly in contact with the pressure face of either the flywheel or cover. Very often this is wholly masked by the synchromesh on the gear you are engaging, and drivers with no understanding of the internal workings of a transmission won't know it is happening. If you have a particularly free-running gearbox it is even more likely. Those of us who cut our teeth in the old days when there was no synchro on 1st, 2nd, or reverse are well aware of this phenomenon - you will recognise us because we slip the box into third before engaging 1st, 2nd or reverse from rest (and of course we double declutch up and down the box). After pressing the clutch to the floor, how long do you wait before engaging first gear? Long enough for all the gubbins to stop whirling round, or are you synchro-dependent? |
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11th May 2015 11:01am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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yes agree blackwolf
caterham , try slowing down ( you not car ) when selecting gears |
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11th May 2015 11:04am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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not wanting to take anything away from your comments above but I have been driving for almost 30 years and granted the oldest car I've driven may only go back to the mid 80's I've been very lucky to have never experienced anything similar before. .......
hold on before I go any further.......my last 07 def didn't have any gear change problems (rough engine, abs lights, etc but never recall any gear change problems)? back to the clutch....so I can start up in the morning....no rush and a clonk just getting it into first - certainly no fast gear change? |
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11th May 2015 11:15am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17527
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Does it do it if you select a different gear cluster first?
If there is a problem causing this, it could be clutch springs, other clutch problems, weak synchro, or other transmission problems. On a lighter note (and please don't take offense, because sincerely none is intended) how have you managed to drive for 30 years without learning more about how vehicles work along the way? I always had you down as a relative youngster and on your first Defender! |
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11th May 2015 11:21am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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perhaps just a young brain !!!
not done much mechanically albeit I have built a westfield from space frame up and a caterham....... personally I think I'm fairly mechanically minded...the problem lies (in my eyes) more with me thinking there's a problem and everyone telling me it's me. hopefully one fine sunny day I'll be able to say - there you go 'that was the problem' all along. another thing that doesn't help much is not having the time to get stuck into stuff as this is my daily commute and let's be honest even the defender is incredibly complicated these days - for example you pull off in 1st / 2nd low range up an incline and the engine is lurching at slow speed - where do you start - mechanical / drive train slack, turbo actuator sticking, faulty sensor such as high low affecting throttle response, VCV on the fuel, lose connection........ it's probably just me - but in my eyes something ain't right and it's doing my fruit in. 
and certainly no offence taken. in fact when I had the last def the dealer did 100 miles test driving in it and gave it a clean bill of health - I assumed it was simply the agricultural character of the defender as I'd been told by many - the dealer that bought it off me virtually phoned me before he'd got back to base that things weren't right?? |
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11th May 2015 12:04pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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So just been launched wobbling the wheel some more.
I'm not suggesting this is the cause as nothing is rotating but the clank clank sound is very much like the sound you get when rotating the prop back and forth check for play? I've checked the panhard rod and it seems fine. The seems to be coming from the axle / diff but it's difficult to say as I'm wobbling the wheel and not underneath listening? |
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11th May 2015 7:58pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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Get it put on ramp and checked , always easier with 2 people
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11th May 2015 8:04pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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Yes need to. I assume there shouldn't be any noise at all .... perhaps just a little creaking here and there?
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11th May 2015 8:07pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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Make sure its on a 4 poster ramp , that way can be checked with everything in the running postion
two posters can hide things as the axles etc are hanging down |
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11th May 2015 8:15pm |
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