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pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

So whats the deal then, mineral or syth ?

How much oil per litre of diesel ?

Pom

4th Feb 2011 10:45pm

szracer

Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 356

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Mineral or semi-synth.

5ml of 2 stroke per litre.

pom wrote:
So whats the deal then, mineral or syth ?

How much oil per litre of diesel ?

Pom

2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8

4th Feb 2011 11:16pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

Thanks I need to fill up before laning on Sunday, will give it a bash

Pom

4th Feb 2011 11:20pm

party monkey

Member Since: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Oxon.
Posts: 1311

2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Cairns Blue

This sounds like a plan..... Just waiting for my Ebay seller to deliver the Forte and then I think a dose of every other fill (good shout SZRacer) is in order. If nothing else, for a couple of months to trial it.

I'm still not 100% sure if it should be mineral or semi synth, FB or FC or in fact it doesn't matter. The only concensus I can see is deffo NOT fully synthetic. Assume no real difference for a Td5 against a PUMA. Perhaps logically it makes sense to only mix a mineral 2 stroke in with 'mineral' diesel

Too late and too windy to go rumaging in the barn to see whether my Stihl 2 stroke is the right spec.... One for the morning and then off to Turneys methinks.

Out of interest - has anyone noticed any significant change in mpg either way as a consequence ? Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.

4th Feb 2011 11:38pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4655

Lorryman100 wrote:
You should only use mineral oil, as semi and synthetic don't burn up completely leaving ash deposits in the cat. I use Motul 100 MOTO MIX 2T Lubricant for 2 Stroke engines from site sponsor Opie oils. It is a mineral oil with rating JASO FB. JASO FC is a low ash oil which I have in the garage for my 2 stroke outboard engines, but wont risk using it in my landy as it is semi-synthetic. Basically any mineral 2 stroke oil with JASCO FB rating will do.

Glad to hear that the mineral JASO FB SPEC is O.K. for the Puma.

1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

4th Feb 2011 11:49pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

These guys say to use 0.2ml per litre?

Pom

5th Feb 2011 12:00am

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

spudfan wrote:
Lorryman100 wrote:
You should only use mineral oil, as semi and synthetic don't burn up completely leaving ash deposits in the cat. I use Motul 100 MOTO MIX 2T Lubricant for 2 Stroke engines from site sponsor Opie oils. It is a mineral oil with rating JASO FB. JASO FC is a low ash oil which I have in the garage for my 2 stroke outboard engines, but wont risk using it in my landy as it is semi-synthetic. Basically any mineral 2 stroke oil with JASCO FB rating will do.

Glad to hear that the mineral JASO FB SPEC is O.K. for the Puma.

According to the Aussie thread should only use FC rated if you have a cat.

Pom

5th Feb 2011 12:02am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4655

pom wrote:
spudfan wrote:
Lorryman100 wrote:
You should only use mineral oil, as semi and synthetic don't burn up completely leaving ash deposits in the cat. I use Motul 100 MOTO MIX 2T Lubricant for 2 Stroke engines from site sponsor Opie oils. It is a mineral oil with rating JASO FB. JASO FC is a low ash oil which I have in the garage for my 2 stroke outboard engines, but wont risk using it in my landy as it is semi-synthetic. Basically any mineral 2 stroke oil with JASCO FB rating will do.

Glad to hear that the mineral JASO FB SPEC is O.K. for the Puma.

According to the Aussie thread should only use FC rated if you have a cat.

Pom

Cheers for that. I am correct in assuming that the Puma has a cat? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

5th Feb 2011 12:04am

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

All puma's have them as far as I know. Some threads here about de-cat pipes and such.

Pom.

5th Feb 2011 12:07am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

pom wrote:
All puma's have them as far as I know.

Incorrect. Pumas in SA do not have the cat. Although the pipe is there, the internals are not and the oxygen sensor is not connected.

Look on your gearbox on the side closest to the exhaust. If you see an unconnected plug there, it means you don't have a cat.

5th Feb 2011 6:41am

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Naks wrote:
pom wrote:
All puma's have them as far as I know.

Incorrect. Pumas in SA do not have the cat. Although the pipe is there, the internals are not and the oxygen sensor is not connected.

Look on your gearbox on the side closest to the exhaust. If you see an unconnected plug there, it means you don't have a cat.

Puma with CAT have not oxygen sensor Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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5th Feb 2011 7:47am

Tim seymour

Member Since: 17 Jan 2010
Location: Devonport TAS
Posts: 92

yes iam still useing it it is lot quiter more power and i am using castrol mineral 2 stroke oil for motor bikes it is going really well cherrs tim

Cess the Taswegian

5th Feb 2011 11:05am

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

Just filled up and slapped in some, going for 0.2ml per litre to start off.

This from Halfrauds, correct spec and £9 quid a liter

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Pom

5th Feb 2011 12:17pm

totoD110

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Manila, Philippines
Posts: 86

I also use 5ml per Liter of diesel...

5th Feb 2011 1:58pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

I'm using 200ml of diesel per tankful of two stroke, seemed to work the engine went really quiet.........really really quiet, in fact you can't tell it's running. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

5th Feb 2011 2:54pm

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