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Clutch issues Not had any clutch issues  47%  [42] Clutch has been changed once and no more issues  29%  [26] I have had more than one clutch  13%  [12] I have had more than one clutch and on going clutch issues  10%  [9] Total Votes: 89

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AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707

Defender Puma Clutch Issues Doing a bit of research. My 130 has had 3 clutches so far and I think its about to have another. I'm Trying to determine if there are issues with certain vehicles. My 130 has a very lumpy tick over and at around 2700rpm the engine is very very lumpy. I am wondering if this roughness has anything to do with clutch failure. In simple terms the little springs in the clutch drive flange are designed to take up the acceleration and deceleration forces to provide a smooth drive. however I am wondering if the 'torqueynes' and roughness of the engine constantly hammering fook out of the little springs is causing the clutch springs to weaken issue. If my theory is correct this would only occur on vehicles that ran rough so in theory if you have a rough runner it will keep eating clutches until they either smooth out the engine or build stronger clutches. If you have never had a clutch issue in theory you should have no problems. So the questions are as above. Q Have you had no clutch issues. Q Have you had a Clutch change followed by no more issues Q Have you had more than one clutch Q Have you had more than one clutch and are expecting more Please find a picture of a Series Clutch, in a Puma the coil springs become weak and get smaller allowing tooooo much free play between the drive flange in the centre and the friction plates. This then causes rattling clunking and the delightful clank clank clank when the engine is stopped. Click image to enlarge 130's have feeling's as well you know

2nd Dec 2010 5:40pm

mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109	Do they change pressure plate and flywheel as well.
2nd Dec 2010 5:44pm

Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686	Not had any issues as off yet!!!! Only done 10k though.
2nd Dec 2010 5:56pm

mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034	i dont think i would know what is normal with these, they all seem to have some issue - even if its a minor niggle. Mike
2nd Dec 2010 7:08pm

fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626	I've had 3 Clutches changed and since the last one no more issues.....Time will tell though  NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
2nd Dec 2010 7:14pm

willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789	Thats what happened to mine after 30k miles, spring fell out in Dundee had to drive home to Yorkshire with intermittent clutch . Try not to change to early into 6th gear now as I think the torque judder this can produce eats the clutch springs. Original Member Pie n Pea Club. 110 HCPU Tipper
2nd Dec 2010 7:45pm

bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189	i'll abstain from this one. Don't want to tempt fate  BM52
2nd Dec 2010 7:47pm

RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579	I have a 110 and tow alot but only done 12k so far.
2nd Dec 2010 8:48pm

jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7987	mines had two clutches fitted in one day..... i think they just got the first one wrong. Engine is fine and not lumpy and problem has gone since the new clutch was gone. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop
2nd Dec 2010 9:03pm

MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2407	Going for another one. Not LRPOS this time Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later
2nd Dec 2010 10:17pm

bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069	do they have the same problem with transits ? or is it a different clutch ? I can't see white van man putting up with clutch issues
3rd Dec 2010 8:44am

The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459	My first Puma had two in 14k miles. My 09 has done 13k and so far so good but knowing my luck will hold out until just after the waranty runs out. Yes it is lumpy as hell!!!!!! Never been the same since the last download update but all I get is the standard answer "they all do that"
3rd Dec 2010 9:53am

ralton Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Durban Posts: 153	I believe the new spec clutch is ok... I've had 3 clutches - the first two were the old spec (Ford spec), and this third one is the new spec (Land Rover) clutch. As a rough statement: If your clutch is 2007/2008 version, i think there is a fair chance it'll break. If it's a 2009/2010 version you'll probably be ok... www.ralton.co.za
3rd Dec 2010 11:57am

blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17320	bpman wrote: do they have the same problem with transits ? or is it a different clutch ? I can't see white van man putting up with clutch issues I thought (but may be wrong) that the tranny Puma has a dual-mass flywheel. If so, then the clutch will be totally different since it won't have the springs at all.
3rd Dec 2010 11:58am

MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2407

ralton wrote: I believe the new spec clutch is ok... I've had 3 clutches - the first two were the old spec (Ford spec), and this third one is the new spec (Land Rover) clutch. As a rough statement: If your clutch is 2007/2008 version, i think there is a fair chance it'll break. If it's a 2009/2010 version you'll probably be ok... Really? My third one (have it in my hands) has the Ford brand stamped. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge In this one you can see the gap between the spring and plate Click image to enlarge Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later Last edited by MK on 3rd Dec 2010 12:21pm. Edited 2 times in total

3rd Dec 2010 12:06pm

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