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| pjh Member Since: 22 Nov 2010 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 126   
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Interesting thread.
My 07MY Puma had the whole clutch mechanism replaced at 42k miles. Clutch, flywheel, slave cylinder and master cylinder - i don't know the details other than the receipt for the work done, as it was before I aquired the vehicle. Thanks, Peter Defender 11MY USW |
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9th Dec 2010 2:56pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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The point is two fold...land rover dont make the clutch and the tests (certainly if its an engine problem) wont cover this sort of real world issue. Mike |
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9th Dec 2010 5:35pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109  
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Have done a few motorway miles this week and like Andrew says with his around 60 mph it goes lumpy mine has always done it from new originally thought it was something out of balance like a wheel or the propshaft but not sure now my 130 has the latest updates as well
 i also get like a surging in low reves when going up a rough track in 1 st or 2 nd which wont do the clutch any good Pete saidhe might be able to tune it better but if he can why can,t Land Rover do it  |
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9th Dec 2010 9:36pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2416  
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Had a close look the friction plate and found this.
 The grey area is not the cover plate of the spring cage, but the splined hub which rotates and it is blocked by pushing the coils. So there are 2 different spaces in the hub, 2 which already touch a pair of opposite springs and a 2 which are far far from any spring end leaving a pair of springs totally loose. Looks like some sort of progressive mechanism. The problem would arise if the "tight" springs are of bad quality. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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28th Dec 2010 11:50am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2416
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Any feedback?
 Puma 110" SW
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28th Dec 2010 8:12pm |
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| cinstone Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Stourbridge Posts: 375 
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Around 28k miles in just over two years in my 90. No problems as yet.
Chris. |
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30th Dec 2010 12:53am |
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| Gabriel Boff Member Since: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 95  
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Hi all!
Had the clutch of my 08/09 changed after 25.000 km, because of the loosen springs, after that (now with 45.000 km) it seems to be ok, but i'm afraid to have to change again. About the "rough" of the engine, I don't belive that this could be causing this problems, I think that the springs don't hold up the big torq of the engine, it's very easy to solve this problem, only just need a little of goodwill of LR. If we stop and think in old diesel engines, how rough it were and how much clutch fail did occur??? |
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4th Jan 2011 7:01pm |
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| landydubai Member Since: 01 Sep 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 206  
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Just had the clutch rep aced after 15492 KM springs went LandyDubai
Keep the shiny side up! 09 110 XS BAS remap 09 90 pick up BAS remap 08 D3 V8 G4 Spec Bentley Speed GT 2009 G55 2003 Ford Raptor 2010 - new toy! |
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4th Jan 2011 7:10pm |
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| landydubai Member Since: 01 Sep 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 206
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Just had the clutch rep aced after 15492 KM springs went LandyDubai
Keep the shiny side up! 09 110 XS BAS remap 09 90 pick up BAS remap 08 D3 V8 G4 Spec Bentley Speed GT 2009 G55 2003 Ford Raptor 2010 - new toy! |
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4th Jan 2011 7:11pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2416
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It is not an easy job. Basically there is no room for thicker springs as they would touch the flywheel. And if there was any, then the friction plate would start to slip. And to avoid that then you would need to have a friction plate with bigger surface and replace the pressure plate and then.......better to get a vehicle which is not a mix between a pig and a parrot.
Some builders use rubber "studs" instead of coil springs. Bottom line: this engine was not developed for the Defender. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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4th Jan 2011 8:01pm |
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| vinsell Member Since: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Posts: 74  
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Clutch and flywheel replaced at 42k km, just before end of warranty. I hope I twill have no more this issue.
Vinicio |
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8th Jan 2011 3:01pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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Just returned from the French Alps, waiting for LRA to come out and collect J-Lo.
The symptoms described in the posts above relating to J-Lo have never been resolved. However I think that whatever the issue is has has finally reached a point that it must now be discoverable. Symptoms are Very noisy injectors, the rattle noise they make from cold is constant. When you shut off or slow down (over run situation) the vehicle kangaroos violently. There is a hell of a metallic rattle from the transmission when the above is occurring. I will keep you posted 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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13th Feb 2011 10:27am |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388 
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Mick - I get the surging on an incline problem - no clutch issues and dealer says that my truck is due a ECU mapping update. My truck is an 09 plate so not sure if the map and the surge are linked to one particular software version but from what you're suggesting a later map isn't going to cure the problem. When I raised this problem elsewhere on the forum the replies suggested checking and cleaning the MAP sensor - which I did as it was covered in oily residue - this seemed to help but didn't cure the problem altogether. It's going into the dealers soon for its 2 year check over so will report back if anything found |
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13th Feb 2011 6:29pm |
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| 18stone Member Since: 16 Dec 2010 Location: Mid Essex Posts: 137 
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I'd had my 110 45 minutes on Saturday (from new) and it's doing just that!!!! It goes back at lunchtime. D300 HSE 110 |
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14th Feb 2011 10:33am |
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