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Clutch issues
Not had any clutch issues
47%
 47%  [42]
Clutch has been changed once and no more issues
29%
 29%  [26]
I have had more than one clutch
13%
 13%  [12]
I have had more than one clutch and on going clutch issues
10%
 10%  [9]
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ralton



Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Durban
Posts: 153

South Africa 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
MK wrote:
My third one (have it in my hands) has the Ford brand stamped.


I THINK that may be the problem - if i understood the mechanic when my 2nd clutch broke, the new spec clutch is NOT made by Ford.... www.ralton.co.za
Post #47248 3rd Dec 2010 12:10pm
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
blackwolf wrote:
I thought (but may be wrong) that the tranny Puma has a dual-mass flywheel. If so, then the clutch will be totally different since it won't have the springs at all.


Nope, single Thumbs Up
Post #47250 3rd Dec 2010 12:44pm
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
The results so far

19 people have answered Thumbs Up that only leaves 1377 to answer so come on you lot get your answers in Thumbs Up

Out of 19 vehicles, 12 have had new clutches, out of those 12, 7 have had more than 1. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #47279 3rd Dec 2010 4:16pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Its just gone up 1 so that makes it 13 out of 20... I've had 3... Its Not looking good Big Cry NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #47280 3rd Dec 2010 4:20pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
Sooner or later LR must get one (HD) to work and do a 100k, or am I being too hopeful?
Post #47281 3rd Dec 2010 4:24pm
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Happyoldgit



Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
My '07 Puma had a new clutch and IIRC it was within the first year of ownership, after that the transmission was much quieter on tickover and under load.

My new USW has no rattles, touch wood and fingers crossed it stays that way. During the present cold spell the idle has been lumpy on first start up. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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Post #47290 3rd Dec 2010 4:57pm
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Just called a Clutch Manufacturer in Hereford, Had an interesting chat with him.
As we thought the rough engine is the issue. I asked if he could make me a clutch that could handle the vibrations or roughness of the engine. He said that there would be no point, the roughness at the moment is being taken up in the clutch springs, if they were harder or tougher then the vibration/roughness will pass into the gearbox that in turn will fail.
So the fix is to sort the engine out and make it run smoother 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #47305 3rd Dec 2010 5:49pm
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mick



Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
Are LR able to do that for you or is it someone like Pete that's needed
Post #47306 3rd Dec 2010 5:56pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
AndrewS wrote:
Just called a Clutch Manufacturer in Hereford, Had an interesting chat with him.
As we thought the rough engine is the issue. I asked if he could make me a clutch that could handle the vibrations or roughness of the engine. He said that there would be no point, the roughness at the moment is being taken up in the clutch springs, if they were harder or tougher then the vibration/roughness will pass into the gearbox that in turn will fail.
So the fix is to sort the engine out and make it run smoother


Very interesting thanks for passing that information on.

I think the chances are less for getting the engine to run smoother than getting a clutch to work. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Thinking aloud if Ford had not insisted that LR use the Puma I wonder what we would have now? totaly pointless but it would be nice to have somesort of straight six or V6. I love the sound of the TD5 but they tell us that it would never had met emissions targets (if that is true).
Post #47308 3rd Dec 2010 6:02pm
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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Interesting point of view and make me sense.

So, The root problem is the motor roughness that probably affects some cars (due the fact that not all of us have the issue) In this case, the clutch is the fuse and if you improve it, probably the transfer will be broken (more expensive).

Probably, for this reason some of you have changed the clutch so many times without good results.
Is there a way to "measure" the roughness? in this case we can compare if the more rough cars have more problems with clutch.

I hope that som LR representative can read it. Mr. Green Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
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Post #47309 3rd Dec 2010 6:04pm
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Eduardo wrote:
in this case we can compare if the more rough cars have more problems with clutch


This is why I created this poll basically its showing that some cars keep requiring new clutches so these are I presume the 'rough' ones.

My 130 seems to be at its roughest in 5th gear at 59 - 61 mph when on the gas. You can also hear the clutch chattering its poor heart out at the same time.

Mick I will be having a chat with Pete Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #47314 3rd Dec 2010 6:26pm
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Toplink



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Clutch replaced at 35k no problems since.
Post #47776 7th Dec 2010 10:09pm
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Allan



Member Since: 09 Sep 2009
Location: Perth
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
On my 3rd clutch in 20,000km/2 years. So far theis one feels and sounds ok. We will see.

Allan
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gtveloce65



Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Epsom Green
Clutch changed at around 10k miles, but real improvement came when gearbox chaned shortly after. HOWEVER...now starting to suffer the 'driveline self-destruct' noise when coasting to rest after a period of motorway cruising - sounds like the rear propshalf juddering between drive/overrun due to something at the trasnfer box end causing interference. Had the transmission brake drum changed (allegedly out of true) but this hasn't solved the problem.

Mech at dealers 'could we go for a quick drive to have a listen?' Me: 'Yes, probably best we head from here (West Sussex) to at least the Midlands...' Laughing Intermittent faults - marvellous... 1953 80
1965 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce Sprint
1980 Fiat 124 Spider
2008 110xs
Post #47833 8th Dec 2010 2:52pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
I think I`m the top 1 user. Also my flywheel shows signs of slip. Anybody tried to have a technical reply from LR about these clutchs. Sick of going through "know-squad dealers".


WHERE IS THE GUY WHO DESIGNED THE CLUTCH? Evil or Very Mad Puma 110" SW

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Post #47839 8th Dec 2010 3:10pm
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