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| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555   
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It certainly involves the DPF, but the Cat is news to me, there's been no official release involving that as far as I'm aware. An engine to TDi for!
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3rd Feb 2014 6:11pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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News to me too. Dependant on where you look you get conflicting information. Will obviously have to wait for the 'finer' details. As with most things I doubt very much if it will apply retrospectively.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rul...ate-filter  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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3rd Feb 2014 6:28pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6102 
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Is there any ruling that there need to be anything inside the cat?
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3rd Feb 2014 6:34pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Apparently not it is restricted to visual and results of emission test???? Got a feeling this thread will go viral but it will all be supposition until further details are released. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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3rd Feb 2014 6:35pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677 
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For DPF read Catalytic converter within this topic and you get the picture. I won't comment in case I offend.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic26337.html |
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3rd Feb 2014 6:51pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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there was a notice send to mot tester the other day by email from vosa , I will read it tomorrow and see what it says .
all the information on the Internet is normally old and the notices are now sent by email . our mot tester was told not to have the paper mot manual in the building because it does not have the latest info , so any manual you read from on the net won't have the latest info either , when you log on to vosa for mot the computer gives you the info on what's pass or fail etc for that vehicle |
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3rd Feb 2014 8:29pm |
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| EWS Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 156 
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Interesting post.
Recently be talking to the staff at my local MOT garage, who are also a rally /race car tuning workshop, rolling road ,ect, and also have a section who fabricate stainless steel exhausts, as per a UK wide company, re a stainless exhaust for my TD5 90, when asked about not fitting a CAT, the MOT tester said the truck would fail its forth coming MOT, as the truck was fitted with as manufactured ('06 TD5) and a lot of people were in for a surprise !!!, as the they had previously fitted a number of Land Rovers with CAT less exhaust systems. |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:01pm |
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| EWS Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 156
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Now this is interesting, could really open a can of worms, may be one should give it a poke with a long stick and give it a wiggle around , to remove the the contents !!!!!!!! May be I have opened the can of worms !!!!!!!!!!! So how is the CAT on a TD5 Defender checked for compliance/emissions ???????. Just curious !!!!, apart from the item is in place |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:08pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4787 
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Could be interesting, looks like i might have to dig out my cat for next years mot .... 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:16pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677
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Cribbed from the AA website. Article regarding DPFs. I wonder how tuning effects emissions, if at all. Anyone got any figures?
Removal is not a legal option It is suggested from time to time that the answer to failed DPF regeneration is get the DPF removed from the exhaust system rather than pay to get it repaired/renewed. Indeed there are companies advertising just such a service including reprogramming of the engine management software, but is it legal? DPFs are fitted to meet European emissions regulations designed to reduce vehicle emissions of particulate matter (soot) associated with respiratory disease and cancer. According to the Department for Transport, it is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3)) to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet. Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. Insurance You must notify your insurer if the vehicle is modified but such a modification could in turn invalidate any insurance cover because it makes the vehicle illegal for road use. MOT From February 2014 the inspection of the exhaust system carried out during the MOT test will include a check for the presence of a DPF. A missing DPF, where one was fitted when the vehicle was built, will result in an MOT failure. With an original equipment DPF removed from the exhaust the car may or may not pass an MOT smoke test - a Euro V (September 2009 diesel) is more likely to fail than one designed to comply with earlier emissions standards. |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:22pm |
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| EWS Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 156
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MOT
From February 2014 the inspection of the exhaust system carried out during the MOT test will include a check for the presence of a DPF. A missing DPF, where one was fitted when the vehicle was built, will result in an MOT failure. The "the presence of a DPF",the same for a CAT , how do the testers ensure that they are compliant with emission regs. Just keeping the pot boiling |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:37pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4787
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Diesel smoke test still applies I presume, the cat in no way influences this test which is what baffles me, the PDF however is a different story 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:41pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/2014/...e-filters/
In December 2013, Roads Minister Robert Goodwill announced that the MOT test will be amended to include an inspection of the diesel particulate filter (DPF). Since the announcement, we have had many queries about the type of inspection that will take place. Following discussions with the Department for Transport, the inspection will initially be restricted to a visual examination for the presence of a DPF or any diesel catalytic converter (DCAT), in addition to the metered smoke check. Testers will have to make sure that every vehicle with a DPF and/or DCAT fitted by the manufacturer as standard is still present on the vehicle. If a DPF/and or DCAT has been removed, then the vehicle will fail the test. This is regardless of the result of the metered smoke check. We expect the amendments to section 7.1 of the inspection manual and the new reasons for rejection to be in place during February 2014. Further details will be issued in a special notice nearer the time. The "full" press release??? https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rul...ate-filter Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:49pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677
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This paragraph below pretty much covers any engine mods I would assume? Perhaps the tuning boys can give us a heads up on emission figures post any tuning activity.
According to the Department for Transport, it is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3)) to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet. |
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3rd Feb 2014 10:54pm |
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