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carrotbay



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel XS CSW Auto Santorini Black
Sad was about to order a decat pipe for my Puma .. don't think I'll bother now. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
Post #304906 3rd Feb 2014 11:27pm
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RockJaw



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Well, we could give a rat's ass for the MOT.

Any recommendations for where to source a clean open down pipe for delivery to the USA? ****CENSORED****
Post #304926 4th Feb 2014 4:22am
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martinfiattech



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So its out with the drill bits and an internal sleeve then. or make it look like a cat Very Happy the joy of section 7.1

Our place only became a testing station about two years ago, when the sales man came to sell us the equipment we noticed the emissions tester had a eobd function he told us that a diagnostic check via the tester may come into the test in time. I have no idea if that is true or not I would be interested to know if any other testers have heard the same or was it just sales patter. All I know is the range on the smoke tester head is rubbish and we really should have got a better one.
Post #304954 4th Feb 2014 9:03am
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jimbob7



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You heard right, Germany is currently objecting to OBD testing ,so it may well happen. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #304983 4th Feb 2014 10:47am
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x-isle



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Personally I welcome the tests.

Pot and Kettle as yes, I've dabbled in the past with removing/emptying cats on cars albeit a long time ago.

Any technology that is reducing emissions on our highly polluting vehicles can only be a good thing.

Car, bike, 4x4 not quick/powerful enough? You've bought the wrong vehicle.

I expect there'll be a bit of backlash, but I'm sure I won't be the only one on here with this opinion.

Cat, DCat, DPF, EGR, yes please. I appreciate that they can be a pain in the rear, but suspect most people are not removing them because they are a pain, they are removing them because they think it'll turn their sluggish Defender into a Ferrari.

If you want to see what all this power sapping technology is trying to achieve, you've only got take a look at China



You may think that your one vehicle won't make a difference, but if everyone thought like that.

Rant over! Thumbs Up Craig Rogers

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Post #304998 4th Feb 2014 11:32am
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borderterrier



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
borderterrier wrote:
This paragraph below pretty much covers any engine mods I would assume? Perhaps the tuning boys can give us a heads up on emission figures post any tuning activity.


Any of the tuning fraternity care to offer some reassurance that tuning doesn't alter emissions outside of the legal requirement?
Post #305028 4th Feb 2014 1:40pm
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big steve



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I remember 3 yrs ago. Or so wen I took my then 2.4 for its first mot with straight through exhaust bigger turbo mapped and the list goes on and the mot bloke told me it was running cleaner than new cars and that he really struggled getting a reading ?

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
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Post #305074 4th Feb 2014 4:44pm
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custom90



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Slight problem with the CAT with the MOT is if it's just a visual test which is about all they can do then aftermarket manufacturers will just sell dummy cats into the section where appropriate or as suggested here drill the inners out. They can't really go by emissions as they are variable to a degree anyway.
Personally I have kept standard except for a straight through centre exhaust section. No tune no changes to anything, runs well enough to me. Thumbs Up No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #305081 4th Feb 2014 5:09pm
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munch90



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yes that's the same notice in first post our tester was sent yesterday
Post #305151 4th Feb 2014 9:28pm
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jimbob7



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Whatever happens I hope people are going to be responsible about where and from whom they buy their second hand "replacement"cat/DPF so that they dont start a sudden demand for stolen cats. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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borderterrier



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What do you reckon?
Post #305171 4th Feb 2014 10:10pm
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jimbob7



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/\/\ Evil or Very Mad Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #305175 4th Feb 2014 10:14pm
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borderterrier



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Bonnets and doors are a good example of supply and demand.
Post #305178 4th Feb 2014 10:16pm
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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
well considering you need to lift the engine from its mounts to get a 2.2 dpf out of a defender good luck to them 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #305180 4th Feb 2014 10:21pm
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borderterrier



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Not difficult once it's been removed from your driveway and is siting in a lock up with 4 blokes stripping it for parts.
Post #305183 4th Feb 2014 10:24pm
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