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Jim_Bean



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
2.2 Turbo/Intercooler pipe recall. *** WARNING ***
*** UPDATE - SEE NEW PHOTOS LATER IN POST ***

So we went on our first proper camping trip this weekend and on the way back the engine light came on and I lost the turbo completely. Even with my foot flat on the floor she wouldn't do more than 30. Luckily I was only 5 miles from home.


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I'm really disappointed but not at all surprised. After such a crap experience with the two Discovery 3s that we had I was hoping the Defender would be much more reliable.

This is my 7th Defender but i've not had one for a few years. I was just hoping the Puma would be better.

Just waiting for the Land Rover assistance guy.

I hope this is not start of things to come.


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borderterrier



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Poor you, I hope its nothing serious and they sort it quickly
Post #249808 7th Jul 2013 7:34pm
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ericvv



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Had the same when my truck was also relatively new. Went into limp mode several times with engine mgmt light coming on like yours, but nothing wrong with the turbo. Limp mode means no turbo of course. It actually was all down to a faulty EGR valve, which once replaced under warranty, never went into limp mode again.
Hope it is as simple as that in your case too. Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Jim_Bean



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I hope so too. They've cancelled on me now and told me it will be 8am tomorrow morning.

Another day late to work because of Land Rover.
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alwoodley72



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Hi, we had the same last weekend, puddle of water too... Turned out the turbo hose had come off, and the clip was still there! Happy days!! Hope yours is as simple, sounds just the same symptoms

Alex
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JeremyJ



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Sounds like your intercooler pipe has come off. Crying or Very sad
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Jim_Bean



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Land Rover are here now. Apparently the alternator pulley has cut through the turbo pipe.

Its a very common fault apparently...
Post #249895 8th Jul 2013 7:48am
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Caterham



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amazing - really basic stuff and they're still getting it wrong ??

glad it was a simple fix and no damage done (to the car that is) - confidence and incovenience, thats something else.


hopefully happy motoring from here on
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familymad



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Does the fix still allow the same again in another 1400miles? 1951 80" S1 2.0
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Jim_Bean



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The Technician explained that the pipe is just poorly fitted as opposed to a poor design. However, he has reported it many times.

You can see how the pulley has cut a large hole right through the intercooler pipe...


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It shouldn't happen again once fitted in the right position. My concern is that air and melted bits of plastic have been able to bypass the filter and go straight into the turbo.

I guess time will tell, thank god for the warranty.
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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Speak to Solihull - Surely a free first service for the inconvenience Question Proud owner 110 Utility XS
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zahy



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Had the same last weekend ( covering only 2500 miles from new) turned out the turbo hose had come off with the clip feel off, my local dealer fitted two clips to the hose (JUST IN CASE) according to land rover recovery LR will be releasing a modified hose/clip Shocked
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K9F



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Jim_Bean wrote:
Its a very common fault apparently...


Indeed it is! Thumbs Up

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20804.html

Recently replaced mine with stainless steel hard-pipes! Was the other side that had evidience of chafing on mine....against the alternator. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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ericvv



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K9F wrote:
Recently replaced mine with stainless steel hard-pipes! Was the other side that had evidience of chafing on mine....against the alternator.


Mal, are you referring to the Entreq Airflow Kit which they produce for the Td4? If I remember well, those from Entreq are for the Puma 2.4, correct? These here:
http://www.entreq.de/products-lr-defender/...r-td4.html

Worth your while I guess. Several years ago I had a turbo hose split on my Puma, which was then replaced under warranty. But I would be happy to have it once and for all out of the the way.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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K9F



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Eric,

It is indeed those very pipes but they didn't come from Entreq. As everything from Entreq it is top quality and top dollar. But a stainless pipe with silicone ends is a stainless pipe with silicone ends. £343???? I think not!!!!! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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