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Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

I've just read that previous thread. So the usual quality and 'Land Rover Shrug' from the dealers then.

I just hope that when (if) the modified pipe becomes available that a retro fit is offered. I don't want to be miles from base when this happens again, and it sounds like that is almost a certainty if you are fully loaded up on a long journey.

Isn't that what they are designed for?

The irony is that fitting the 3rd party steel hose (which sounds excellent) will probably invalidate the warranty

9th Jul 2013 8:12am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Jim_Bean wrote:
The irony is that fitting the 3rd party steel hose (which sounds excellent) will probably invalidate the warranty

Very true but you won't be stranded (not for that anyway

). It's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. That's why I decided to sort out most of my woes before warranty expiry. I couldn't afford the time for the frequent trips back and forth getting the same items periodically swapped out due to poor finish.
If you're that worried carry a spare OEM set perhaps? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

9th Jul 2013 8:20am

Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

I agree - frustrating. I think a spare is a good idea. Next time at the dealer i'll get them to hand one over.

I'm sure i'll be there soon for EGR valves or broken electric windows

9th Jul 2013 8:30am

clwlaptop

Member Since: 21 May 2013
Location: Neath
Posts: 65

I'm traveling to france for the family holiday in a few weeks. One of the kids is disabled so breaking down is the last thing I need to do - so why did i buy a defender??? Anyway - Just had a look under the bonnet seems to be plenty of room between pulleys and hoses - am I looking in the right place? I guess things must move/expand??

Will keep an eye out for damage.

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9th Jul 2013 3:35pm

zahy

Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 150

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black

clwlaptop wrote:
I'm traveling to france for the family holiday in a few weeks. One of the kids is disabled so breaking down is the last thing I need to do - so why did i buy a defender??? Anyway - Just had a look under the bonnet seems to be plenty of room between pulleys and hoses - am I looking in the right place? I guess things must move/expand??

Will keep an eye out for damage.

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i strongly recommend that you keep a close look at the turbo hose clip, had this problem last weekend and my delaer had to fit two clips to keep ot tight, according to land rover they are working on a fix for this problem, the last thing you want is to break during your holiday- enjoy

9th Jul 2013 5:01pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

zahy wrote:
i strongly recommend that you keep a close look at the turbo hose clip, had this problem last weekend and my delaer had to fit two clips to keep ot tight, according to land rover they are working on a fix for this problem, the last thing you want is to break during your holiday- enjoy

This hose coming off of the 2.2 Puma is such an old ill that it is almost not credible to believe that LR have not found a fix for what must be a really minor engineering issue. Below is a link to a thread on this topic which is now more than a year old, and problem still ain't solved

. In the thread they talk about a Mikalor clip which is apparently better than the Jubilee clips seemingly still used by LR. I think if that indeed is so, then our LR Customer Relations forum representatives should pass this easy fix on to their superiors/engineers, no?

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic12314....p;start=45 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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9th Jul 2013 5:40pm

zahy

Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 150

ericvv wrote:
zahy wrote:
i strongly recommend that you keep a close look at the turbo hose clip, had this problem last weekend and my delaer had to fit two clips to keep ot tight, according to land rover they are working on a fix for this problem, the last thing you want is to break during your holiday- enjoy

This hose coming off of the 2.2 Puma is such an old ill that it is almost not credible to believe that LR have not found a fix for what must be a really minor engineering issue. Below is a link to a thread on this topic which is now more than a year old, and problem still ain't solved . In the thread they talk about a Mikalor clip which is apparently better than the Jubilee clips seemingly still used by LR. I think if that indeed is so, then our LR Customer Relations forum representatives should pass this easy fix on to their superiors/engineers, no?
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic12314....p;start=45

funny enough i did pass this information in my complaint to LR, who called back to apologise ( in other words telling me to f off) and when i asked for her comments that the same problem seems to be an old issue she replied that LR is always cautious before issuing any fix and that they currently are still testing the "modified part" i personally cant see this testing ending any time soon!! maybe the new fix is the DC100

9th Jul 2013 5:50pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

I thought Land Rover got their customers to test their vehicles for them

9th Jul 2013 5:53pm

zahy

Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 150

SGH wrote:
I thought Land Rover got their customers to test their vehicles for them

with no feedback

9th Jul 2013 5:54pm

clwlaptop

Member Since: 21 May 2013
Location: Neath
Posts: 65

I'll keep a close look out then. Thanks!!

9th Jul 2013 6:52pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Worth checking the other side too where the alternator is!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

9th Jul 2013 7:17pm

clwlaptop

Member Since: 21 May 2013
Location: Neath
Posts: 65

GOTCHA. TA!!

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9th Jul 2013 8:06pm

holgerb

Member Since: 08 May 2013
Location: Baden-Württemberg
Posts: 9

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HCPU Tamar Blue

clwlaptop wrote:
GOTCHA. TA!!

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New friction point: Intercooler-duct vs. mounting plate for airfilter-unit!!
i'm looking for suitable material to fix this problem!

Regards, Holger

25th Jul 2013 9:19am

Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

So my MY2013 110 went in to have the new bracket mod fitted to prevent me needing a 4th intercooler/turbo pipe in a year.

The bracket is in two pieces. One section (comprised of two pieces) bolted to the alternator and holds the pipe securely.

Here is it with the first part bolted to the alternator - you can clearly see where the steering column has been rubbing through the 4th pipe as it shiny and clean:

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And here with the second part enclosing the pipe :

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There is also a second bracket that is bolted just behind the front grille and the pipe rests in this rather than being bolted in:

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**** HOWEVER - PLEASE CHECK THIS ******

To fit the bracket the dealer has to remove the air box :

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When they do this the bracket mounted to the wheel arch liner can be easily broken - as they have done to mine :

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I asked to be in the workshop when they fitted the bracket and the force they used to remove the air box was ridiculous. When they broke the bracket I was told not to worry as "that always happens" and that "the other mounting point is more that enough to hold the air box, you don't really need two."

If i hadn't been in the workshop I'm sure they wouldn't have told me about the bracket.

So in short, It goes in tomorrow morning to have a replacement air box bracket fitted, that was broken when they fitted the updated bracket that they had to do to stop the 110 eating its 4th pipe in a year.

Quality product, quality dealers.

**** PLEASE - make sure you check your air box bracket for damage AFTER the updated turbo bracket has been fitted *****

10th Jul 2014 8:19pm

borderterrier

Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1677

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

Which dealership was it mate?

10th Jul 2014 9:04pm

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