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Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

2.2 Turbo/Intercooler pipe recall. *** WARNING ***

*** UPDATE - SEE NEW PHOTOS LATER IN POST ***

So we went on our first proper camping trip this weekend and on the way back the engine light came on and I lost the turbo completely. Even with my foot flat on the floor she wouldn't do more than 30. Luckily I was only 5 miles from home.

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I'm really disappointed but not at all surprised. After such a crap experience with the two Discovery 3s that we had I was hoping the Defender would be much more reliable.

This is my 7th Defender but i've not had one for a few years. I was just hoping the Puma would be better.

Just waiting for the Land Rover assistance guy.

I hope this is not start of things to come.

Last edited by Jim_Bean on 10th Jul 2014 9:21pm. Edited 3 times in total

7th Jul 2013 8:32pm

borderterrier

Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1677

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

Poor you, I hope its nothing serious and they sort it quickly

7th Jul 2013 8:34pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Had the same when my truck was also relatively new. Went into limp mode several times with engine mgmt light coming on like yours, but nothing wrong with the turbo. Limp mode means no turbo of course. It actually was all down to a faulty EGR valve, which once replaced under warranty, never went into limp mode again.
Hope it is as simple as that in your case too.

You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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7th Jul 2013 8:42pm

Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

I hope so too. They've cancelled on me now and told me it will be 8am tomorrow morning.

Another day late to work because of Land Rover.

7th Jul 2013 8:43pm

alwoodley72

Member Since: 14 Mar 2010
Location: salisbury, wilts
Posts: 724

2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Alaska White

Hi, we had the same last weekend, puddle of water too... Turned out the turbo hose had come off, and the clip was still there! Happy days!! Hope yours is as simple, sounds just the same symptoms

Alex

7th Jul 2013 10:13pm

JeremyJ

Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 1758

Sounds like your intercooler pipe has come off.

7th Jul 2013 10:13pm

Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

Land Rover are here now. Apparently the alternator pulley has cut through the turbo pipe.

Its a very common fault apparently...

8th Jul 2013 8:48am

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6281

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

amazing - really basic stuff and they're still getting it wrong ??

glad it was a simple fix and no damage done (to the car that is) - confidence and incovenience, thats something else.

hopefully happy motoring from here on

8th Jul 2013 8:57am

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3479

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

Does the fix still allow the same again in another 1400miles? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

8th Jul 2013 9:06am

Jim_Bean

Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border
Posts: 613

The Technician explained that the pipe is just poorly fitted as opposed to a poor design. However, he has reported it many times.

You can see how the pulley has cut a large hole right through the intercooler pipe...

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It shouldn't happen again once fitted in the right position. My concern is that air and melted bits of plastic have been able to bypass the filter and go straight into the turbo.

I guess time will tell, thank god for the warranty.

8th Jul 2013 9:16am

Froogle-Yorkshireman

Member Since: 10 Jul 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 350

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Speak to Solihull - Surely a free first service for the inconvenience

Proud owner 110 Utility XS
Ex RR Sport HST V8
Ex Td5 90

8th Jul 2013 8:53pm

zahy

Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 139

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black

Had the same last weekend ( covering only 2500 miles from new) turned out the turbo hose had come off with the clip feel off, my local dealer fitted two clips to the hose (JUST IN CASE) according to land rover recovery LR will be releasing a modified hose/clip

8th Jul 2013 9:14pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Jim_Bean wrote:
Its a very common fault apparently...

Indeed it is!

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20804.html

Recently replaced mine with stainless steel hard-pipes! Was the other side that had evidience of chafing on mine....against the alternator. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

9th Jul 2013 12:26am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

K9F wrote:
Recently replaced mine with stainless steel hard-pipes! Was the other side that had evidience of chafing on mine....against the alternator.

Mal, are you referring to the Entreq Airflow Kit which they produce for the Td4? If I remember well, those from Entreq are for the Puma 2.4, correct? These here:
http://www.entreq.de/products-lr-defender/...r-td4.html

Worth your while I guess. Several years ago I had a turbo hose split on my Puma, which was then replaced under warranty. But I would be happy to have it once and for all out of the the way.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

9th Jul 2013 5:34am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Eric,

It is indeed those very pipes but they didn't come from Entreq. As everything from Entreq it is top quality and top dollar. But a stainless pipe with silicone ends is a stainless pipe with silicone ends. £343???? I think not!!!!!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

9th Jul 2013 9:02am

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