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Hairy Dan

Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
Posts: 1418

1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White

pllr wrote:
Few questions:

1. Did you apply each change individually? Or did you do everything at once (e.g., 007, Wifi hotspot, and Dynamic Mode)?

Personally I do them all at once, I also created a list of things that I have been testing. To create a list you can click on the star next to the parameter and give your list a name

pllr wrote:
2. I read earlier in the thread that folks were having difficulty with Adaptive Cruise Control. Has anyone figured that out yet?

I have ACC from the factory but I do know a couple of people are still having problems with it.

Cheers Ian
--------------------
22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White.
Kielder 4x4 Safari
Instagram @defender_v8

26th Nov 2022 1:35pm

forzahog

Member Since: 03 Nov 2022
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 66

2016 Defender 110 Other Works V8 Auto Fuji White

For those trying to get ACC that don't currently have it, here's what I have tried so far without real success. These are changes I made comparing my CCF file to Ian's.

Setting: Value [Original Value]
EUCD-075 Integrated Vehicle Dynamic Control: IVDC (Incl. Enhanced ESP And CDC) [Not Supported]
EUCD-097 Forward Collision Warning: Not Supported [Without Forward Collision Warning]
MultiCAN-503 IntelCruiseCtrl: Not supported [ICC not Fitted]
MultiCAN-580 PTCruiseFitment: ACC with Queue Assist fitted [Normal Cruise Fitted]

I did verify that even my Base model has the radar module behind the Land Rover logo. You can even test it with the IID tool in Live Values. So, the hardware is in place, just not the settings/software.

For those that have ACC, do you also have regular cruise control as well? The videos and documentation I've seen so far hint at switching between Speed Limiter/ACC and not regular cruise control. I'm wondering if disabling regular cuise may help...IDK. 20MY Defender 110 Fuji White

26th Nov 2022 3:19pm

Dicky1961

Member Since: 25 Mar 2022
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 144

Yep for your info , I have the factory fitted ACC and also the regular CC and speed limiter.

26th Nov 2022 3:30pm

Ritson

Member Since: 11 Apr 2021
Location: France
Posts: 186

Can anybody clarify what, if any, impact tweaking your CCF files has on your vehicle warranty? Do subsequent OTA PIVI updates reset any changes made back to the original settings? Current: MY22 P400e SE
Prior: Discovery Sport HSE, Jaguar F-Type S, Discovery 3, RR Vogue

26th Nov 2022 3:50pm

matt4x4

Member Since: 18 Nov 2022
Location: North
Posts: 16

@pllr

> Did you apply each change individually? Or did you do everything at once (e.g., 007, Wifi hotspot, and Dynamic Mode)?

I did both. First one by one, then tried a complete restore - which worked without problemns - after messing around with acc stuff. After that I set all the above changes in one try -> all ok.

@Hairy Dan

After applying the 3 settings above the tacho and odometes turn red in dynamic mode, like
on your first screen. Also the "inner premium lights" turn red then.

After messing up ACC features I always got an error shown with the emergency braking system,
was not able to use even the normal cruise control. After restore all fine again.

26th Nov 2022 4:11pm

matt4x4

Member Since: 18 Nov 2022
Location: North
Posts: 16

Ritson wrote:
Can anybody clarify what, if any, impact tweaking your CCF files has on your vehicle warranty? Do subsequent OTA PIVI updates reset any changes made back to the original settings?

Don't know what will be with the warranty, but after using the restore function
from IIDtool the car is back to original parameters.

I did changes when on Pivi Version 3.2.1 - got an update to 3.3.0 last night -
afterwards the changes (Wifi, Dynamic) are still active

26th Nov 2022 4:17pm

matt4x4

Member Since: 18 Nov 2022
Location: North
Posts: 16

Dicky1961 wrote:
Yep for your info , I have the factory fitted ACC and also the regular CC and speed limiter.

Would you mind sharing an dump of your ccf (the mail which can be send from the app),
so I can diff it with mine.

26th Nov 2022 4:18pm

Dicky1961

Member Since: 25 Mar 2022
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 144

“Matt4x4 Would you mind sharing an dump of your ccf (the mail which can be send from the app),
so I can diff it with mine.”

I’ve tried doing this for HairyDan before, I can’t seem to get a copy of the CCF files for some reason.

26th Nov 2022 4:25pm

Ritson

Member Since: 11 Apr 2021
Location: France
Posts: 186

matt4x4 wrote:
Ritson wrote:
Can anybody clarify what, if any, impact tweaking your CCF files has on your vehicle warranty? Do subsequent OTA PIVI updates reset any changes made back to the original settings?

I did changes when on Pivi Version 3.2.1 - got an update to 3.3.0 last night -
afterwards the changes (Wifi, Dynamic) are still active

Ok that's good to know, hopefully someone can clarify the warranty question Current: MY22 P400e SE
Prior: Discovery Sport HSE, Jaguar F-Type S, Discovery 3, RR Vogue

26th Nov 2022 4:51pm

Hairy Dan

Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
Posts: 1418

matt4x4 wrote:

@Hairy Dan

After applying the 3 settings above the tacho and odometes turn red in dynamic mode, like
on your first screen. Also the "inner premium lights" turn red then.

Interesting

my interior lights go red but not the dials

matt4x4 wrote:

Would you mind sharing an dump of your ccf (the mail which can be send from the app),
so I can diff it with mine.

Check your PM's Cheers Ian
--------------------
22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White.
Kielder 4x4 Safari
Instagram @defender_v8

26th Nov 2022 5:50pm

forzahog

Member Since: 03 Nov 2022
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 66

matt4x4 wrote:
@pllr
After messing up ACC features I always got an error shown with the emergency braking system,
was not able to use even the normal cruise control. After restore all fine again.

Could you share what changes you tried for ACC?

I have been looking at the CCF for anything related to this list.
https://www.lrdefender.org/speed_control_d...n-630.html

Quote:
The adaptive cruise control system utilizes the following main components:

CCM
IPMA
Parking Aid sensors (quantity 8)
Park Assist sensors (quantity 4)
Side Obstacle Detection Control Module - Left (SODL)
Side Obstacle Detection Control Module - Right (SODR)
Right steering wheel switch
PCM
Electric throttle
ABS
Adaptive cruise control warning indicator - Displayed in the IPC.

20MY Defender 110 Fuji White

26th Nov 2022 6:33pm

pllr

Member Since: 22 Nov 2022
Location: PA
Posts: 24

matt4x4 wrote:
@pllr

> Did you apply each change individually? Or did you do everything at once (e.g., 007, Wifi hotspot, and Dynamic Mode)?

I did both. First one by one, then tried a complete restore - which worked without problemns - after messing around with acc stuff. After that I set all the above changes in one try -> all ok.

@Hairy Dan

After applying the 3 settings above the tacho and odometes turn red in dynamic mode, like
on your first screen. Also the "inner premium lights" turn red then.

After messing up ACC features I always got an error shown with the emergency braking system,
was not able to use even the normal cruise control. After restore all fine again.

Thanks for the response. Looks my GAP tool won't show up until at least Monday. Looking forward to using it.

26th Nov 2022 10:10pm

pllr

Member Since: 22 Nov 2022
Location: PA
Posts: 24

forzahog wrote:
matt4x4 wrote:
@pllr
After messing up ACC features I always got an error shown with the emergency braking system,
was not able to use even the normal cruise control. After restore all fine again.

Could you share what changes you tried for ACC?

I have been looking at the CCF for anything related to this list.
https://www.lrdefender.org/speed_control_d...n-630.html

Quote:
The adaptive cruise control system utilizes the following main components:

CCM
IPMA
Parking Aid sensors (quantity
Park Assist sensors (quantity 4)
Side Obstacle Detection Control Module - Left (SODL)
Side Obstacle Detection Control Module - Right (SODR)
Right steering wheel switch
PCM
Electric throttle
ABS
Adaptive cruise control warning indicator - Displayed in the IPC.

We have a 2022 L663 (US/NAS) with Adaptive Cruise and a 2023 L663 (US/NAS) without Adaptive Cruise. I'm looking to add it to the 2023. For those that have tried this, do you see screens like this in your Settings > Vehicle section?

(In my 2022 with Adaptive Cruise [with 3.3.1. Pivi Pro software], I can go to Settings > Vehicle > Driver Assistance > Cruise and Limiter and then get a few options for Adaptive Cruise. I'm curious if you need to turn something on in this menu after updating the CCF file.)

26th Nov 2022 10:15pm

forzahog

Member Since: 03 Nov 2022
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 66

My MY20 doesn't show the ACC options on that screen, just the Speed Limiter options. I am running an older version of pivi currently, it's slowly updating to newer versions, but my latest is 3.2.0.

Side note, I was also playing with saving Start/Stop so it doesn't keep resetting to on when you get back in the car.

MultiCAN-566 MHLastUserMode = Enabled

That's the setting that saves your last state. So far, it's been working today.

I would be interested in seeing the difference between the CCF files between ACC/Non-ACC. Ian provided me his and I think I've made progress, but we have very different model versions. 20MY Defender 110 Fuji White

26th Nov 2022 10:26pm

pllr

Member Since: 22 Nov 2022
Location: PA
Posts: 24

@forzahog, I will post the stock CCF files for both our 2022 P400 SE and 2023 P300 as soon as I get the tool (and figure out how to do it).

The 2022 has Adaptive Cruise and the Wifi Hotspot, but I don't think the 2023 has any other different "software" features. The 2022 has the premium interior lighting, but I assume that's a hardware thing. Other features are definitely hardware (e.g., HUD, fridge, power steering column, etc.).

I personally spec'd and ordered the 2022 P400 SE (the first car I ever ordered!) with pretty much every available option except for towing (because I don't tow). The 2023 is a JLR spec'd NAS 30th Anniversary Edition which is based off a P300S with all of the same off-road options plus towing.

26th Nov 2022 10:45pm

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