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| iruffell Member Since: 03 Sep 2010 Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire Posts: 343   
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I actually quite like it, are they taking pre-orders yet?
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16th Sep 2011 12:08pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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Defenders 25000 per year,
L200 just in the uk 12000, why shouldn't Land Rover produce a vehicle that can compete and still be a Land Rover, shouldn't we encourage them. I'm sure the Defender in it's current form will be produced somewhere and you'll be able to buy one. But I for one encourage Land Rover to take the Defender ethos and improve it until it competes with the rest, which judging by sales at the minute it doesn't. Original Member Pie n Pea Club. 110 HCPU Tipper |
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16th Sep 2011 3:09pm |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 
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Are they selling them in the UK yet? I'm in Bucharest at the moment, and they're all over the place. They don't look too bad, especially compared to the Yeti... |
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16th Sep 2011 5:59pm |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505 
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 why?
Benefits are- Better ride / adjustable ride height / self levelling |
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16th Sep 2011 6:00pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654 
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Downsides are: having to drive hundreds of miles either on the bump stops or with the car 6ft off the floor due to computer malfunction or holes in the airbags.
My boss' old P38 used to gently oscillate up and down at traffic lights  |
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16th Sep 2011 6:02pm |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505
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Things have moved on since then  on my 3rd D3 now and never had suspension trouble Most trucks use air suspension and not a problem. |
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16th Sep 2011 6:12pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654
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It'd be fine as an option, as long as you can specify a model with actual springs... a bit like the D3 I suppose.
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16th Sep 2011 6:17pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
Land Rover is not listening , never has , never will !! What other company would produce a vechicle for twenty years with out up grades , Hell Santana made more alterations to the defender ,pulled the seats away from doors etc !!!!!! Twenty five thousand a year is amazing sales for a product a company has let wilt and shown no interest in !!! My problem with the dc100 is it looks like a freelander not a defender , has lost its high seating for over bonnet visibility and 2 litres is to small an engine for a commercial vehicle , my mates plastic can am commander has a 1 litre engine in a glorified quad bike !!!!
Its called niche marketing - produce a product the world doesnt need ! Meanwhile the real world buys Toyotas , by there millions  |
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16th Sep 2011 8:45pm |
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| jav-uk Member Since: 29 Mar 2010 Location: Shropshire Posts: 112  
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Agree, but i'm hoping the new Defender stays afordable. If LR can deliver on the toys, ie Terrain Scanning, Sonar depth sounder (wonder if it makes that ping.....), Air Suspension, Computer console etc.... for sub £25k + VAT then great but I doubt it. More like £40k plus, and that's D4 money. |
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16th Sep 2011 10:04pm |
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| pcoote Member Since: 01 Aug 2010 Location: Oxford Posts: 83 
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I enjoyed this comment from Robert Pepper.
"It would be good to keep Victoria Beckham as a design consultant and whatever she says, do the opposite. Then employ someone like Ellen MacArthur and whatever she says, do it." |
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17th Sep 2011 8:57am |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3709 
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Why are you posting on this web site 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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17th Sep 2011 9:13pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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I'd argue the Defender is still very much in those markets, but has lost a lot of ground. This is exactly what the Defender replacement should be all about: looking at the reasons they have lost marketshare there (an area they used to completely dominate), and what can be done to rectify the situation and beat the competition. I am very fearful that the DC100 is not that vehicle, with its plastic bits and its electronic gadgets. And, of course, it has even less load space, but maybe there will be a larger version available as well. |
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17th Sep 2011 9:15pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422
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Well... that Defender 110 looks bloody amazing amongst those other pictures. That's a clear sign they have some way to go: your sparkling brand new concept looks kind of naff compared to the thing it's replacing! It seriously needs to get a bit more of that Defender vibe. Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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17th Sep 2011 9:19pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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Utility firms etc are not buying as many due to cost, it really is that simple. They know a Defender can out perform a Ranger/Navara/whatever, but reason that they are very rarely pushed to the absolute limit, so the extra cost to have that ability is no longer justified. For them, comfort, style etc do notcome into the equation. They would look at servicing costs, reliability, resale value maybe...that would be all. Its all run by accountants. To say the Defender has direct competitors is wrong, there are really no other vehicles with the quite same level of performance, adaptability etc. In days gone, folks bought Landrovers (series, 90/110 etc) as there was little competition. Now they can buy a pretty comfy double cap pick up which is just good enough to do what they want it to, for a cheaper price than a Defender. But it will not match a Defender. I also think they still lose sales due to poor reputation on build quality and reliability, which they have done little to rectify. Build them properly and they will sell more. Quite simple. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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17th Sep 2011 9:35pm |
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