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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971   
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As I understand it, the hunting legislation is so full of holes that it's pretty hard to do it illegally unless you're trying. Bring an eagle owl along and oh look, that's fine now. No idea if an eagle owl can actually bring down a fox or if they've got any idea what's going on but y'know. I hate seeing suffering animals, and that's why I support hunting and will quite happily stomp on the head of a rat. |
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18th Mar 2016 8:56pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096 
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Hunt sabs just p**s me off. And I'm anti hunt.
When I moved to Devon I got some flack from denying the hunt the right to cross my land. I did it not because I wanted to disrupt, but because we began keeping sheep and 50 horses piling through your field does nothing for the ground. But the people who go out to sabotage are the worst offenders in my book. Anyone who turns up with a mask on to remonstrate is not a peaceful protestor. They should be seen as inciting violence or intimidation and be treated as such. Either arrested or, more bluntly shown the error of their ways. I don't want to spark an argument for or against Badger cull. Suffice to say I am against. The point being is I'm at a dinner party where this guy who is contracted by the Govt to do the cull tells of being chased by 3 masked men in a 4x4 who blocked the road, chased him when he turned around. He had to call the Police and drive to a local nick. The guy was 65. He was gainfully and legally employed - and he is threatened by masked men. Personally I'd have shot their windscreen out. And that's not bravado - that's working on I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info |
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18th Mar 2016 8:58pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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^^^^ slightly off topic, but mention of shooting out a windscreen reminds me of this story from a while ago.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-28...-tsar.html
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18th Mar 2016 9:07pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2753
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Exactly, needs to just be properly legalised and regulated (ie. Aligned with Scottish regulations). The dodgy hunts out there (there are definitely a few) and the sabs are both as damaging as each other. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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18th Mar 2016 9:07pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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Given that the video was released by people opposed to the farmer's actions one can only imagine that it's the worst the farmer did and/or the best of the Land Rover driver's behavior. Anyway. I originally posted the video because I thought it was quite funny, if you ignore the backgrounds of the people driving and all the politics that get tied up in it, some plonkers overtake on a blind bend and end up in a ditch. People in ditch get all angry then a bloke in a tractor gives them a bit of a nudge and drives off. Then they post a video online showing their driving skills and ask for donations to fix the Landy they drove in to a ditch on a private track they shouldn't have been on. Cue a chuckling Cupboard (now there's a strange mental image for you!) |
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18th Mar 2016 9:14pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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Don't forget that to add to the chuckle factor is that they posted the video on a Land Rover enthusiasts group on farcebook expecting donations for their cause
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18th Mar 2016 9:26pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096
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In what way? I probably didn't write it very well. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
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19th Mar 2016 2:41pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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There will always be a huge gulf between the pro and anti field-sports factions. I have my views on the issues but, speaking as one with first hand experience of some of them, I do not feel the need to get involved in a debate on here because in reality there is really very little, if anything, new to say.
While I respect the right of everyone to express their views in an appropriate manner and arena one or two of the comments in this thread leave a bit to be desired. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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19th Mar 2016 4:15pm |
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| Landy-Novice Member Since: 22 Jun 2013 Location: wiltshire Posts: 118
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sigh. forget people today get so offended by the internet and take is so serious. depressing.
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19th Mar 2016 8:06pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Well said, in my view if they keep it legal then it's fine I wouldn't be against it. (Drag) One does wonder just if it is kept that way though....! The above comment (post above not your's HOG) say's a lot about some of the pro mentality. (Especially the last sentence.) Animal cruelty is mentioned and supported and mentioning battering humans would be okay too... Last year there was one hunt up north somewhere filmed doing it illegally. Recently Belvoir estate staff were filmed "keeping a fox in a shed / pill box." The statement given as to the reason was. "The estate was acting in good intentions, and doesn't believe it has done anything wrong." A local farmer to me had cattle injured and ran into fences a few years back, not to mention trespassing with no permission. There was also in the last few weeks pro hunt masked so called men on quads that attacked and hospitalised two hunt monitors. One of which was an ex police officer. If it's legal drag hunting then yes, hunt sabs shouldn't interphere. But equally the hunt monitors shouldn't be interphered with by random pro people in or on vehicles? If it's legal no one has anything to worry about and there should be no reason for any stupid behaviour. One does imagine that these blood thirsty pros would also support the latest episode of cutting money for disabled people too. But that's a different story all together. Live and let live, we all breathe the same air! As HOG has mentioned I shall not be passing further comment either after this. |
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19th Mar 2016 9:07pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2753
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Everyone involved in Hunts up and down the country (that I've spoken to, anyway) couldn't condemn illegal and disgusting practices of a small number enough. The reflects badly on everyone, just as rogue 4x4 idiots reflect badly on responsible green laners and 4x4 owners in general.
Please can we stop these references to "bloodthirsty", "perverted" etc. as those using them refer only to a very small minority, yet use them to tarnish the wider community. (The definition of prejudice) Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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19th Mar 2016 11:32pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443
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Good points there David, I have been involved with hunting with hounds pretty much all my life due mainly from my father being passionate about hunting. Granted I'm not so involved nowadays but pretty much all the people I have come across share the same ideals about respect for all the animals involved. A true sportsman will respectfully walk away when he has been "bettered". Those who have not shown respect are not welcome.
A fair analogy of the minority who spoil it for everyone else is with Greenlaning. Whilst we are doing our best to follow the law there are allways a minority who think they are above the law and willfully drive wherever they like, it's those that receive the publics attention and who give us all a bad name. |
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20th Mar 2016 1:03am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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That works as long as you don't come into the towns to use the shops, hospitals, etc... |
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20th Mar 2016 11:42am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 
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I'm not for hunting but not against it either, but hunting for no reason turns my stomach.
Can I just ask a question with peoples opinions? I was having a bonfire late on Friday, from a distance of probably 500 metres or so I spotted a vehicles headlights on at around 9.30pm, in the dark they drove around and stopped at the top of a bank on some wasteland, then I saw them get out and chuck something out of the vehicle and drive away. The next night I was walking my dogs, they went straight to where they'd been, there were 3 young deer laying on the bank, obviously shot or killed by dogs. I felt very sad and can't get it out of my mind. Is that normal, legal or even ethical? Why would somebody want to kill something so beautiful? I can understand fox hunting to a degree, I've got chickens and sheep, but I don't understand mindless killing or slaughter, I could understand if it was for the meat or something but to shoot animals and then just dump their bodies ??? Sad and mindless. |
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20th Mar 2016 4:21pm |
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