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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971   
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Shooting for meat makes sense, you can also shoot to control the population or cull unhealthy ones. The proper way of doing it you cull the older or infirm members of the population and either eat or incinerate them.
Dumping sounds a bit dodgy to me. |
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21st Mar 2016 11:00am |
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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1033 
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Sounds like poachers !
Let the local rural policing team know |
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21st Mar 2016 11:06am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878  
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Well, except that when psychologists discuss the association of animal cruelty and psychopathy, it's exactly that, cruelty. Not shooting an animal dead. They would associate the psychopathy with burning animals, pulling their legs off, tying them between a vehicle and post and pulling them apart....I think you get my point. It's generally recognised that approximately 1% of the population has recognised psycopathic tendencies of a greater or lesser degree, whereas I would suggest that far more of the population hunt or indeed find hunting acceptable if not actual hunters themselves. So it remains a daft comment in my book. And as far as kiddie fiddlers are concerned, I think their nature gives them a prediliction for young kids, and they don't tend to be 'in to' animals, let alone dead animals. I would assume that group would be called necro-bestialists or bestial-necrophiliacs. Probably both very small groups, who no doubt are at odds with each other's pastimes and regularly troll their respective FB pages...I digress.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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21st Mar 2016 12:10pm |
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.| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
It's obvious that you feel very passionate about this subjet jimbob but I'm unsure whether the vehement is a serious emotion or whether you feel you need to comment. I'm not after an argument as we're all entitled to our opinions, but it's just that I don't understand the comments made regarding the level of one's wealth and the correlation between hunting. I too disagree with killing any animal for fun but fail to see the connection between the two.  I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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21st Mar 2016 5:15pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
I can assure you i am vehemetly opposed to fox "HUNTING".It's just the cruelest form of hunting it is FACTUALLY always performed by the rich,always with HORSES and FOXES and only for sh*ts and giggles.
There is always a need for animal culling,which should be done by HIGHLY SKILLED people with a very high powered rifle.I love riding horses (when I can) and love protecting wildlife. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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21st Mar 2016 5:33pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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I have no issue with enjoyable pest control (hunting etc.), but I'm always rather uncomfortable with breeding things for the sole purpose of being shot at when there's little intention to eat a large proportion of them. It's just a waste of resources - but then so's driving a large 4x4 to the shops
As for the over-privileged rich people... they exist everywhere you just have to deal with it. Some are lovely, some are up themselves. Hunts also (in my experience on foot and with a rather over-excitable cob cubbing) have a load of perfectly normal people that have to sacrifice a lot to be able to get out on a horse. Hunting is not always foxes (harriers and beagles) and is not always horses - there are foot packs for bits of the country you can't get to on a horse. Beagling is usually done on foot too. I see no reason that culling can't be done by a highly skilled dog either. They're a lot better at it than most people. |
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21st Mar 2016 5:43pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
/\/\/\Nope, pest control is different entirely,legistion says quick and humane,that means a rifle.Rich folk says track it with dogs over any number of miles before ripping it to shreds,I assume you have not seen a poor animal ripped to shreds by a "pack" of animals.You would have to be physcotic not to care less. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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21st Mar 2016 5:55pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006  
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Regardless of the wrongs or rights of a particular minority pastime as seen by those on the outside, if we all as individuals don't allow ourselves to be tolerant of such pastimes as being part of the freedoms we enjoy, then it is only a few steps before our own personal interests are being pressured out of existence and there will be no one to support our plea for exemption. Help those around you even if you don't see things from their perspective and they in turn will be more inclined to help you when you need it. Alternatively, I'm alright, so screw you. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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21st Mar 2016 6:33pm |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 
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Have done, they were very helpful, took some details over the phone and passed me to an intelligence officer, they advised me to also contact the local Council's Environmental Crime Officer, they're coming to have a look and clear up the carcasses due to them going to smell and decompose, plus keep an eye out for future fly tipping etc. |
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21st Mar 2016 7:21pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
The comment is interesting as I can find no research that substantiates the fact that (fox) hunting is only performed by the rich. At what level of wealth is indicative of being "rich"? Nor can I find that it's only carried out for the reasons you state. It would help me with my own understanding of class versus wealth and what pursuits they follow it you could point me in the direction of your research, for instance our local terrier man is from an upper class and wealthy background, ratting is his pastime, a pastime which is normally associated with the working classes. I do agree however that culling of any species needs to be carried out by skilled people, as I witness often on a daily basis the results of animals being poorly culled by someone with no empathy, skill or capacity in carrying out this task with the quarries best interest, I would disagree however with the use of firearms on all occasions. The thought of any animal being ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs is abhorrent, but it is always immediately fatal and quick, something which shooting often doesn't achieve.  I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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21st Mar 2016 7:53pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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21st Mar 2016 10:27pm |
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| PDH Member Since: 03 Dec 2009 Location: Shropshire Posts: 179 
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Crikey someone has a chip on their shoulder....did the tories cut your benefits by any chance? Puma 2.2 90 Stationwagon |
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22nd Mar 2016 3:40pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17602 
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There's only a need for culling because we've extirpated all the apex predators in the UK, except homo sapiens. Put bears, wolves, lynx, and a few others back into the landscape and there'd be less need for man to interfere.
It all worked fine until we came down from the trees and messed it up. |
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22nd Mar 2016 6:03pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5115  
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I do not know what benefit cuts have to do with it, I just think jimbob7 is over passionate about a cause! OH! hold on you may have something in your post, that will be it, Osbourne’s next budget move, tax the disabled to pay for Fox Hunting jollies for the super-rich For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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22nd Mar 2016 6:14pm |
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