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Landlord



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I'll take a photo of mine later showing the one way valve from the expansion tank 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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What's the theory behind the expansion tank one-way valve then chaps?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Think it to do with the height of the Webasto in relation to the expansion tank. As the Webasto is installed quite high on the TD5 I presume there could be a chance of air traveling back down the top hose causing an air lock. 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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OK - but presumably it affects the designed operation of the header tank which should have free flow both ways through that pipe?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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I Could be way off mark but I think the small hose takes the expansion water from the system which is then fed back in through the larger hose at the bottom of the tank.


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Martin wrote:
OK - but presumably it affects the designed operation of the header tank which should have free flow both ways through that pipe?


Not sure about this, but I know when I put a Webasto in my TD5, until I put a one way valve on the expansion tank the pump on the Webasto would draw air into the coolant system causing no water to pump around and the Webasto to overheat and shutdown.
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i had one of these on my td5 header but not on the puma. why do you need it? Cheers

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ITEM N° 3

Without check-valve, the expansion box coolant level go up (3 - 4 cm) when the engine is warmed up. With the valve the "problem" was gone.

On the original TD5 Land Rover Webasto KIT, the installation of the valve is MANDATORY!



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Thanks Daniele Bow down

Do you have the whole PDF for Td5 installation?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Sorry for my last post, i hadnt seen the next page after BPMans post with all the pics etc of it.

ON my td5 i fitted one (a one way valve on the expansion tank).

On the puma i dont have one fitted and have no problems with it to date. Cheers

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Translation of German above:

Quote:
CAUTION!

When installing the non-return valve respect the forward direction!
  • Loosen the vehicle pipe (19/1) at the hose (19/4) connecting to the expansion tank.
  • Insert the check valve (19/3) in the hose (19/4) (the forward direction is from the engine to expansion tank) and secure with hose clamp
  • Attach the vehicle pipe (19/1) using a piece of tubing (19/2) and 2 hose clamps
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Martin wrote:
Thanks Daniele Bow down

Do you have the whole PDF for Td5 installation?



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Thanks Smile  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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My FBH has stopped working Big Cry

Took the supply fuel pipe off the heater end and once the fuel pump starts a couple squirts come out and then nothing although the fuel pump can be heard clicking. Does this sound like fuel starvation and is there a fuel filter built in to the system ?

Have checked fuses etc but all ok. FBH stars running on demand but then shuts down after 3 minutes ? 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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could be the fuel filter in the pump is blocked... you've been using non-BP fuel ?
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