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| lornick Member Since: 02 Sep 2009 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 32   
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Guy's,
Is there a concise list that exists detailing all the recall's issued for the puma since it's release in 2007? I'm not asking for a list of everything that's gone wrong with everyones vehicle here - just the official factory notices issued relating to fixes. I'd like to be able to ring the dealer and ask him if all the recall work that was required has been done on my vehicle- but would prefer to do so with a list in front of me. Thanks (in anticipation.....) |
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9th Sep 2009 5:06pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109  
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I was informed of a new campaign here regarding the ECU software that must be changed.
The problem was the sensor's sensibility to low quality diesels. The changes allows lower quality fuels without had errors in the ECU. Ive not have access to the Landrover techinfo so I cannot confirm. Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"  Click image to enlarge |
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9th Sep 2009 8:10pm |
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| lornick Member Since: 02 Sep 2009 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 32
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Thanks,
I'll give the main stealer a call tomorow and see if he can tell me if they've been done. Rgds |
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9th Sep 2009 8:55pm |
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| scatt Member Since: 24 Aug 2009 Location: nottingham Posts: 103  
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Im trying to get the ecu update at the moment but im told the update has been put on hold because its causing more problems than it solving.
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9th Sep 2009 9:17pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109
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Scatt,
I just speak today with the dealer and he told me about the ECU update. Maybe has been released again for 3rd world countries were the diesel are not good. Tomorrow I will be there again for replace a joint-propshaft in the front propellor due an excesive wearing (62.000 km) and they will do the ECU update. Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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9th Sep 2009 9:30pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Ok Edo, waiting your feedback |
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9th Sep 2009 10:46pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035  
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I wouldnt want it - the latter remap was shocking compared to mine Mike
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9th Sep 2009 11:28pm |
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| draymond Member Since: 07 Apr 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 49  
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I think i had this remap done yesterday.
We don't have 3rd World Diesel in Aus, as far as I'm aware (10PPM Sulphur)? Seems to have increased the mid range torque. Have an even bigger grin on my face now. Dave |
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10th Sep 2009 1:09am |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109
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Humm,
We will see what happens Here also the diesel is quite good with less than 50 PPM in the Capital and less than 350 ppm in the rest of the country (should be the best in Central and South America). It is possible after made the update comeback to the old one? Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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10th Sep 2009 2:02am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 
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ECU reflash was pulled in Aus and other export markets earlier this month. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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11th Sep 2009 9:01am |
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| BigGeorge Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Zurich Posts: 43  
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Below a collection of service bulletins / not aware of a real recall.
Regards George Nr 1) Technical Service Bulletin No.LTB00177 09 October 2008 Subject/Concern: Brake Vacuum Pump Seal Oil Leak Models: Defender (LD) 2.4L Diesel Only 2.4L Diesel Only VIN-range: 7A732615 Onwards Markets: All Section: 206-07 Summary: Oil leaking from the brake vacuum pump front oil seal. Cause: Dirt ingress into the pump pulley seal resulting in damage to the lip and subsequent oil leakage (the new brake vacuum pump has a secondary dirt lip seal). Suggested Customer Concern Code - R31. Action: Should a customer express concern, install a new brake vacuum pump (refer to Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 206-07 (70.15.19)). Parts Required: Description Part Number Quantity Brake vacuum pump LR012183 1 Gasket LR004381 1 Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time Install a new brake vacuum pump 70.15.19 0.7 hours Repair/Claim Coding: Causal Part: LR012183 ACES Condition Code: 42 Defect Code: Nr.2) Land Rover Service Bulletin SSM38792, 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise. Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise. Type: LD - Defender - All Years - Special Service Messages - Engine Name / Part No: SSM38792 Info Type: Service Bulletins Version No: 1 Date Uploaded: 21 Jul 2008 Models: LD - Defender Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise. Last Modified: 21-JUL-2008 09:44 Category: Engine Symptom: 497000 Engine Noise Content Issue: Heavy audible knocking heard on start up. Cause: On start up oil pressures can cause the piston cooling jets, (PCJ), to latch into a zero flow condition. Due to hysteresis effect in design the jets do not unlatch until the engine is warm and the oil pressures lower again. During this time with no pressurized oil jet flow to the lower pistons / cylinder bores, overheat and scuff conditions / damage can occur. Action: Replace the engine assy but ensure only engines post serial # ELD00080707063602 are used. This condition will not occur on vehicles post assured Vin# 9A767162. Engines post the info above are fitted with modified PCJ internal springs and this issue is now closed. Nr. 3) SSM39893 Models LD - Defender Title Defender Intermittent Cranking Last Modified 26-NOV-2008 16:29 Category Electrical Symptom 203000 Basic Electrical Content Issue: Warranty investigations have shown a number of repairs to Defender for intermittent loss of cranking. Cause: This issue may well be due to the immobilisation strategy on Defender. Action: Before conducting any work on a vehicle with this symptom, please view SSM 34184. Nr.4) SSM38084 Models LD - Defender Title Defender MA 07 - lock in one gear Last Modified 06-MAY-2008 11:27 Category Transmission Symptom 505000 Manual gearbox anomalies Content Reference: MT82 Getrag gearbok locked in one gear. Cause: Still not determined. Required action: Land Rover ask to the dealers to confirm the problem first and proceed to fill the attached questionary before to get in contact with the "Fix Right Enhanced Diagnostics" (FRED) technichians in charge of the repairs. Thats will allow to the enginnering dept to understand the possible causes of the problem. Nr.5) SSM40851 Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points Models : LD - Defender Title: Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points Last Modified: 30-MAR-2009 08:27 Category: Noise/ Vibration Symptom: 703000 Vibration Concerns Content Issue: Loose or missing front / rear propshaft grease nipples for Defender 07 MYonward vehicles. Action: If any propshafts are identified where the grease nipples are missing, then the propshaft should be replaced. Any cases where the grease nipples are in place but loose should be torqued to 8Nm + 45degrees. Nr.6) Models LD - Defender Title P1169 and or P0089 codes logged. Last Modified 30-JUL-2008 10:16 Category Driveability Symptom 608000 Runs Rough Content Issue: 07MY onwards - Difficult to start, missfire, lack of power, driveability issues etc. PCM can have either P1169 and or P0089 logged codes. Pre assured Vin# Def 90 at Vin LD8A760582. Defender 110/130 at Vin# LD8A760304. Cause: Potential contamination in the fuel system. Action: Remove the fuel filter, drain complete contents into a suitable clear vessel. Note signs of any water contamination / debris. 1) If more than 40cc of water or debris is evident carry out the following:- Drain the fuel tank. Check the fuel tank breather location and reposition as per the illustration A attached. On pick up variants please reposition the breather pipe in board towards the rear of the fuel tank. If breather is blocked replace the pipe as per GTR. Replace the fuel filter and clean out the fuel lines of any contamination / debris and or residue. For P1169 code replace the FMV (Fuel Metering Valve), as per GTR and LTB00153. Illustration B. If DTC P0089 is also present replace the PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), as per GTR. Illustration C. Bleed and prime the fuel system as per GTR. Start the vehicle and carry out the pump learn process with IDS as per GTR. Carry out a road test to ensure the issue has been rectified and no codes have been logged. Submit any findings on ePQR to engineering. 2) If no sign of water or debris but either codes logged carry out the following:- Check the integrity of the wiring and the condition of the terminal connections between PCM and Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor and between PCM and FMV. Repair wiring as necessary and re test the vehicle. If no issue is found with the wiring / connections, and code P1169 logged, replace the FMV as per GTR and LTB00153. Replace the fuel rail PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), only If DTC P0089 is present as per GTR. Start the vehicle and carry out the pump learn process with IDS as per GTR. Carry out a road test to ensure the issue has been rectified and no codes have been logged. Submit any findings on ePQR to engineering. Note:- A new tank / breather design was introduced on Defender 90 Vin# LD8A760582. and Defender 110/130 at Vin# LD8A760304. Please submit an ePQR for any issue seen on vehicles post these vins. Nr.6) SSM40308 Models LD - Defender Title Mulitiple Starter Motor Failure Last Modified 21-JAN-2009 17:43 Category Electrical Symptom 203000 Basic Electrical Content Issue: Repeat failures on Defender starter motors. Cause: The ignition switch can jam causing starter motor failure due to over running. Action: If the starter motor has failed check operation of ignition switch; a) Is the switch jammed through any of its positions? b) Does the switch fully return to position 2 once cranked and the inhibit operates, not allowing re-crank from position 2? c) Does the starter motor continue to engage once cranked and key released? If the answer to any of the above is YES please change ignition barrel as well as starter motor as potentially the starter motor will fail again. Vehicles post vin. 775971 have been modified and should not demonstate this concern. Nr.7) LTB00166 Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection Models: Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150 Markets: All Section: 308-00 Summary: Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation. Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24. Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00. Parts Required: Description Part Number Quantity Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1 Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours Repair/Claim Coding: Causal Part: URB500080 ACES Condition Code: Nr. 8 Technical Service Bulletin No.LTB00211 30 April 2009 Subject/Concern: Transmission Stuck in Gear, Selector Shaft Detents Now Available Models: Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel 2.4 Puma Diesel VIN-range: 7A732615 Onwards Markets: All Section: 308-03 Summary: This Technical Bulletin is to advise that the transmission selector shaft detents are now available as a serviceable part. Therefore it is no longer necessary to replace the complete transmission assembly for concerns related to the transmission selector shaft detents (transmission stuck in gear). Should it become necessary to replace the transmission selector shaft detents, refer to the new procedure detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-03. Parts Required: Description Part Number Quantity Transmission Detent Kit LR017294 1 Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time Selector Shaft Detents – renew 37.16.75 4.9 hours The goons are trying to bring me down! Defender 110 SW MY10 useless piece of  ... but I like her
Defender 90 V8 50th Anniversary Series IIa 109 / 6 cyl. ex-fire truck |
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11th Sep 2009 9:21am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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Sump and Brake pipe were recalls
The rest on my list were service actions Mike |
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11th Sep 2009 10:47am |
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| BigGeorge Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Zurich Posts: 43
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what was the issue with the brake pipes?
here in switzerland the owner were not contacted for recalls. It was me who had to produce the bulletin to get the oil sump changed... they had no clue! Cheers George The goons are trying to bring me down! Defender 110 SW MY10 useless piece of ... but I like her
Defender 90 V8 50th Anniversary Series IIa 109 / 6 cyl. ex-fire truck |
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11th Sep 2009 1:34pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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The brake pipe was rubbing on the heat sheild and failing (some posts on here) and failing: 206-Q054v2:
A limited number of 2007/8MY Defender vehicles may have been manufactured away from process and in some cases; the rear brake pipe may have been incorrectly routed/fitted resulting in reduced clearance/contact with the heat shield. If the rear brake pipe is in contact with the heat shield, this may result in the brake pipe wearing through. Action to be taken You are requested to contact the owners of the affected vehicles and request that the vehicle is made available at the earliest opportunity so it can be inspected and where necessary the brake pipe be re-routed or replaced. A sample customer letter for you to use is attached as Appendix 1. The workshop procedure is attached as Appendix 2. Mine went in and they couldnt better my bodge fix but the sump it was in being changed when the sales dealer called me to book it in. Mike |
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11th Sep 2009 1:59pm |
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