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Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4182

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Mine has rattled for as long as Ive owned it, standard OE clutch. I've had a couple of people tell me the rattling is not always the clutch. It can be from the gearbox. Don't know how true it is, but they were both mechanics that said it. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

25th Jul 2024 4:59pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3638

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

BogMonster wrote:
I have a Clutchfix HD one, maybe 12000 miles on it now, but despite not having had any really hard use it makes a rattle worse than the original when everything is hot. Seems OK when cold.

Can't say I would bother again, but having pre-emptively fitted one new HD clutch "so I wouldn't have any problems" (ha) I don't intend to take the gearbox out again to do the same.

My LOF one did the same but has slowly settled down and rarely rattles the transmission now, although I had my idle adjusted up a tad which helped DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

25th Jul 2024 5:40pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20201

The springs on the friction plate can often be culprit, as can the gearstick selector.
In mine the LR one was broken, the nylon ball had cracked.

Since then I bought a Shift R from TMD. That’s really nice, no more issues there with that never been so nice to go through the gears nice and smoothly.
They aren’t cheap, but well made.

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25th Jul 2024 5:46pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4182

Hopefully this'll get the job done. Transit 4x4 arrived this morning.

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26th Jul 2024 12:40pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20201

Please let us know how you get on, I really like it on mine drives nice with a good bite and low slip.

LR’s offering I never had any luck with multiple generations of them, they just got a little bit better, though some had good luck, I found they did far less miles than I’d have expected. NEVER SURRENDER! ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

26th Jul 2024 3:27pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3222

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Bluest wrote:
Hopefully this'll get the job done. Transit 4x4 arrived this morning.

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Presumably you are doing the slave etc. as well. If so I’d consider getting the pioneer4x4 clutch line. It’s a much nicer solution than the Ford junk. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.

26th Jul 2024 5:01pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4182

The garage is fitting and supplying everything else, it's just they haven't done a transit clutch in a Defender before so asked me to get it. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

26th Jul 2024 5:12pm

Ianh

Member Since: 17 Sep 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 1949

Zed wrote:

Presumably you are doing the slave etc. as well. If so I’d consider getting the pioneer4x4 clutch line. It’s a much nicer solution than the Ford junk.

I’m assuming the pioneer4x4 line makes it easier to bleed as the standard line goes up and down several times, allowing airlocks to be created and making it a real pig to bleed sometimes.

26th Jul 2024 7:34pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2400

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

For those who do not care about the rattle of a non LR Puma OE spec clutch disc, you can get a Ford V8 from the 60s for peanuts. Same diameter, same splines, same height etc Puma 110" SW

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26th Jul 2024 8:51pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4636

Bluest wrote:
Mine has rattled for as long as Ive owned it, standard OE clutch. I've had a couple of people tell me the rattling is not always the clutch. It can be from the gearbox. Don't know how true it is, but they were both mechanics that said it.

The gearstick can rattle. Next time you hear a rattle put your hand on the gearstick. If that stops the rattle just replace the gear stick. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st Jul 2024 12:04pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4182

I glued those vibrating weights in place years ago

The noise I had was definitely from the transmission. The suggestion to me is that one of the shafts in the gearbox can rattle as well as the clutch. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

31st Jul 2024 1:18pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4636

Good idea about the weights. Just thought it was an easy thing to diagnose if you had not already tried it. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st Jul 2024 1:24pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2400

That is the idea of the central dumper of the original cutch disc. A very cheapo way LR avoided a DMF design. Some may say DMF is a bad idea, but they work very well in other car brands. Puma 110" SW

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31st Jul 2024 1:25pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5804

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

BogMonster wrote:
I have a Clutchfix HD one, maybe 12000 miles on it now, but despite not having had any really hard use it makes a rattle worse than the original when everything is hot. Seems OK when cold.

Can't say I would bother again, but having pre-emptively fitted one new HD clutch "so I wouldn't have any problems" (ha) I don't intend to take the gearbox out again to do the same.

Seconded....also find it very heavy on engagement. It's by no means a 'smooth, subtle, finessed' clutch. Also with you on not planning to change it, hopefully ever again. Might check gearstick just to be sure. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

31st Jul 2024 3:47pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4636

I had an original Land Rover clutch replaced with another land rover clutch and have no bother with it. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st Jul 2024 3:55pm

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