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fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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Have a read of this hope you get the picture Augusto

Alive Tuning wrote:
These things are an extremely crude way of making your engine produce more power, as they try to fool your engine. There are many parameters within the software that should be changed to make a nicely balanced state of tune, which these external boxes can never access.

There is no plug in tuning box that can compare with a properly made remap.

If you're going to do it, do it properly or not at all.

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8th Feb 2011 8:04pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

Augusto, those are generic modules which you plug into your landy and go. The Alive tuning and BAS remaps are tuned in to your landy's ecu by a interface unit as no two landy's are the same offering a more tailored remap to your needs.

8th Feb 2011 8:05pm

mick

Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 2109

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Lorryman100 wrote:
fekete wrote:

If you can handle the flat spots

Karl, I was thinking of getting the BAS remap in May, when I am down in York, at what revs do you get the flat spots? I want the remap for towing my caravan/boat trailer.

Brian forget your remaps etc and get one of these for towing

8th Feb 2011 8:26pm

Porny
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Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands
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Alive Tuning wrote:
T1G UP wrote:
yes, go to bell auto services or IRB for proper remap.

LOL Very funny! Pete is good, but Ian is just a pretender.

Handbags out eh?

Let's not go there.

Ohhh... interesting reply.

So... I'm pretender.

Gary, what exactly makes you qualified to post such a comment?

This topic comes up quite a bit and does get bit boring.... but maybe you would like to compare qualifications and experiences on a open forum - as I have nothing to hide.

I'll start....

Qualifications:

Apart from the normal A levels, I have:

An ONC in Engineering

A HNC in Automotive Engineering

A BSc in Design and Management

Various BTEC and City and Guilds Qualifications

Expereience:

11 Years experience (starting with an Apprenticeship) in Powertrain Reseach and Development for a very relevant company. This covers amoung other things - 3 years in Engine Build, 2 Years in Vehicle Workshops, various other placements in different EMS, Emssions and Facilities developments, and then 6 years doing various engine/powertrain development on CI and SI engines.
This in addtional to various machining/fabrication work....

If you search for my name you will find a couple of SAE papers to do with CSSRE amoung other things - using a single cylinder development engine, and then more recently I've been working on Hybrid Development.

I was doing full power curves on Supercharged V8's before you'd even worked out what a fuel map looked like on a Td5. I bet you've never even tried listening for det on a petrol engine at idle let alone at full chat.

Have you any understanding on the effects of tuning on emmissions, temps, longevity etc etc.

I've never denied working with Pete - and he is very good at what he does.... thats why I like working with him.

I struggle with production ECU's and interigating them (hence working with Pete) - I'm used to working with very different tools... but being the skilled person you are I'm sure you have a full understanding of INCA and VISION software?

Development ECU's and software is easy for me....

I even had 4.2 Jag Supercharged V8's running on stand alone ECU's before most people.

So Gary, lets see your qualifications and expereince?

Unless I'm mistaken didn't you only get into tuning because you bought a td5 Disco?... but before that you had no engineering experience apart from some waffle about renault 5 tuning?

Ian

8th Feb 2011 8:41pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
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mick, that's a birds landy

Real men drive Defenders

Looks like the rattles have been thrown from the prams.............................

8th Feb 2011 8:55pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

mick wrote:
Lorryman100 wrote:
fekete wrote:

If you can handle the flat spots

Karl, I was thinking of getting the BAS remap in May, when I am down in York, at what revs do you get the flat spots? I want the remap for towing my caravan/boat trailer.

Brian forget your remaps etc and get one of these for towing

Didn't realise you're a Hairdresser Mick

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8th Feb 2011 8:57pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
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^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^

8th Feb 2011 8:59pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

I think hes smashed his pram up

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8th Feb 2011 8:59pm

Nellie

Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Deep in Lincolnshire
Posts: 54

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Baltic Blue

Alive Tuning wrote:
I'm not slagging anyone off. I apologise if it came across like that. Pete is the brains behind all IRB's remaps, Fact. I thought this was common knowledge?
Both are freinds of mine.

Is that back-peddling? Calling someone a pretender seems to be both sweeping and derogatory? In my opinion such a statement potentially speaks volumes about its originator. Whatever happened to manners, decency and respect?

I will doubtless be in the market for various upgrades and tuning – I will only choose a company and personalities I respect. Don’t expect my custom.

8th Feb 2011 9:07pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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I see the

are back

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8th Feb 2011 9:22pm

mick

Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Yorkshire
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On days like this I wish i was a hairdresser

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8th Feb 2011 9:27pm

szracer

Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 356

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..and if you read past my post, you will see that Pete not only tried to sort out my flat spot issue, (and has sent me several different maps to tweak things) he did it in super quick time.

I'm more than happy with the service I received from BAS - Not just saying that, and no connection with Pete other than a customer who appreciates personal and speedy service, a rarity these days.

No remap is ever going to be 100% perfect, without junking the ECU and writing your own code from scratch. It should also be said that if (as I did due to distance from BAS) you use tool to load the remaps, rather than getting them setup by their creators, on a rolling road etc, they will inevitably be somewhat compromised. Saying that, it's a damn good compromise.

Now, please guys, let's not let this thread degenerate any further into a slanging match:

What with the responses to Zagato's posts, the Nancocom thread, and this thread (whatever the rights and wrongs of any of them) what'a happening to the friendly site I had got used to? If I wanted abuse, I could have gone on the Landyzone forums..!

fekete wrote:
Hi i experienced flat spot with my BAS tune and a few other guys have.....and basically they just turn the power down to overcome this ? the tune is good but as said i and others have experienced these flat spots resulting in me sending the tune back.....I can't recall where i had the flat spots it was a while ago i had the tune...if you look in the search and put in Flat spots you will find what your looking for

Have a read of this you will have to just scroll down and read a few post....BIGFOG...szracer.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4681.h...p;start=15

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8th Feb 2011 9:30pm

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2047

Yeah, sort it out lads!

It's getting worse than listening to the wife on here!

8th Feb 2011 9:37pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

szracer wrote:
..and if you read past my post, you will see that Pete not only tried to sort out my flat spot issue, (and has sent me several different maps to tweak things) he did it in super quick time.

I'm more than happy with the service I received from BAS - Not just saying that, and no connection with Pete other than a customer who appreciates personal and speedy service, a rarity these days.

No remap is ever going to be 100% perfect, without junking the ECU and writing your own code from scratch. It should also be said that if (as I did due to distance from BAS) you use tool to load the remaps, rather than getting them setup by their creators, on a rolling road etc, they will inevitably be somewhat compromised. Saying that, it's a damn good compromise.

Now, please guys, let's not let this thread degenerate any further into a slanging match:

What with the responses to Zagato's posts, the Nancocom thread, and this thread (whatever the rights and wrongs of any of them) what'a happening to the friendly site I had got used to? If I wanted abuse, I could have gone on the Landyzone forums..!

fekete wrote:
Hi i experienced flat spot with my BAS tune and a few other guys have.....and basically they just turn the power down to overcome this ? the tune is good but as said i and others have experienced these flat spots resulting in me sending the tune back.....I can't recall where i had the flat spots it was a while ago i had the tune...if you look in the search and put in Flat spots you will find what your looking for

Have a read of this you will have to just scroll down and read a few post....BIGFOG...szracer.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4681.h...p;start=15

szracer Sorry for putting you in the picture but you are just one of the few that have had the flat spots and other problems with the BAS map...yours was just the latest one that came up on the search....once again i apologizes

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8th Feb 2011 9:48pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

szracer wrote:
..and if you read past my post, you will see that Pete not only tried to sort out my flat spot issue, (and has sent me several different maps to tweak things) he did it in super quick time.

I'm more than happy with the service I received from BAS - Not just saying that, and no connection with Pete other than a customer who appreciates personal and speedy service, a rarity these days.

agree 100%

No remap is ever going to be 100% perfect, without junking the ECU and writing your own code from scratch. It should also be said that if (as I did due to distance from BAS) you use tool to load the remaps, rather than getting them setup by their creators, on a rolling road etc, they will inevitably be somewhat compromised. Saying that, it's a damn good compromise.

agree 100%

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8th Feb 2011 9:50pm

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