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Puma oil spec?
I'm just about to carry out the first service on my SVX just wondering what spec/make oil does the dealer use I've been told by a mate it's Castrol magnatec diesel 5w 40 but would like to make sure before I buy any a Ģ25 for 4 litres Shocked Formerly mao99999
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Post #19425 4th Dec 2009 9:29am
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Post #19427 4th Dec 2009 9:38am
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Its 5w30 castrol magnatec, I think its about 7 Liters, but the dealer will just put there own 5w30 in and it wont be castrol Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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make sure its the Magnatec Professional which is the semi synthetic and has the Ford aproval Puma 110 - gone
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Post #19435 4th Dec 2009 10:43am
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Post #19454 4th Dec 2009 1:40pm
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dgardel



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5W30 WSS-M2C913-B = ACEA A1/B1 (A1/B1 are Much better)

ACEA A1/B1 is superseded by ACEA 2008 A5/B5 (much better)

Conclusion: in our Ford engine USE ACEA A5/B5 specs. oils

So you can use Mobil1 5W30 ESP Formula (The best!!!)
or Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5W30
or Castrol Magnatec A1 Professional 5W30

in my opinion Mobil1 are better than Motul and Motul are better than Castrol.

see HERE .

Note that VW 50700 spec are wider than A5/B5 and Mobil1 ESP cover the VW50700 Spec.

Ford ..913-B, A1/B1 and A5/B5 are olis with LOW HTHS for low consumption

but.......


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austen



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I have just checked the Castrol website here in Australia, and they recommend 0-40 Edge. The handbook says 5-30, and neither of these Castrol oils comply with the spec in the book.

I am confused.

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Post #19492 5th Dec 2009 12:09am
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MK



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Higher specs (like Dgardel quotes) doesnīt mean it is better.

Example: V12 (2-stroke) Detriot Diesel engines mounted on drilling rigs or power generators needed only API-CC spec. Many people made the mistake to use the higher spec API-CD on them. Guess what?

The thing with Fordīs oil specs for defenders resides on the fact of fuel economy bussiness by using Low-HSHT values. I would prefer, however to use a High-HSHT in detriment of fuel economy. So these are the 2 cases where I see the manufacturer being so strict with oil specs. Puma 110" SW

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Post #19494 5th Dec 2009 12:45am
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dgardel



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MK wrote:
Higher specs (like Dgardel quotes) doesnīt mean it is better.

Example: V12 (2-stroke) Detriot Diesel engines mounted on drilling rigs or power generators needed only API-CC spec. Many people made the mistake to use the higher spec API-CD on them. Guess what?


I'm not totally agree with you, if you compare the same specific specs, the oil IS better! ACEA A5/B5 IS better than ACEA A1/B1

Please explain me why API-CD isn't better than CC spec.

In other case spec ARE different so you cannot compare it totally eg ACEA A5/B5 with ACEA A3/B4.

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The thing with Fordīs oil specs for defenders resides on the fact of fuel economy bussiness by using Low-HSHT values. I would prefer, however to use a High-HSHT in detriment of fuel economy. So these are the 2 cases where I see the manufacturer being so strict with oil specs.



High HTHS IS ALWAYS better than low HTHS, in my opinion and experience.

I use Mobil1 high HTHS on my Defender (Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40). Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #19510 5th Dec 2009 12:18pm
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MK



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[quote="dgardel"]
MK wrote:
Higher specs (like Dgardel quotes) doesnīt mean it is better.

Example: V12 (2-stroke) Detriot Diesel engines mounted on drilling rigs or power generators needed only API-CC spec. Many people made the mistake to use the higher spec API-CD on them. Guess what?


I'm not totally agree with you, if you compare the same specific specs, the oil IS better! ACEA A5/B5 IS better than ACEA A1/B1

Please explain me why API-CD isn't better than CC spec.

Well Iīm not a specialist. Ash content of CD oils killed the engines. Higher spec, but not good at all for that engine. Puma 110" SW

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Post #19529 5th Dec 2009 4:07pm
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badwookie



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What about oil spec for an extreme summer climate like kuwait's (50 Celcius and above during the hottest months May through August) ? Big Cry
Post #29416 10th Apr 2010 8:04am
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badwookie



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LR Dealership in Kuwait uses 10w-60...Mobil-1 10w-60 has a Viscosity Index (V.I.) of 177...While Mobil-1 5w-30 V.I. is 164...

Does a higher V.I. mean a better oil spec for the Puma ?
Post #29436 10th Apr 2010 12:07pm
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jlerra



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Engine Oil
Hey Guys,
Why don't we comply with what it says in the 'book of words' - Castrol Magnatec 10/30!
However, if in Dubai - check with Tech Dept at Land Rover.
In Gibraltar and Andalucia where it is hot in summer, I use what it says in the book and it's fine
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Post #29442 10th Apr 2010 2:36pm
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