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Had your clutch exchanged?
2007, None
10%
 10%  [25]
2007, 1x
11%
 11%  [28]
2007, 2x
4%
 4%  [12]
2007, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2007, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2007, 5x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, None
10%
 10%  [26]
2008, 1x
5%
 5%  [13]
2008, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2008, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, 4x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2009, None
6%
 6%  [16]
2009, 1x
4%
 4%  [12]
2009, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2009, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2009, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2009, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2010, None
9%
 9%  [23]
2010, 1x
6%
 6%  [17]
2010, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2010, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2010, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2010, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, None
9%
 9%  [23]
2011, 1x
5%
 5%  [14]
2011, 2x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2011, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2012, None
4%
 4%  [10]
2012, 1x
3%
 3%  [8]
2012, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2012, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2012, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2012, 5x
0%
 0%  [2]
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
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MK wrote:
Is there such a HD clutch?


Anyone have access to the parts catalogue? We could check there? --
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Post #148675 5th Jun 2012 8:35am
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Regard



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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Orkney Grey
Naks, thought you would want to know......

They just phoned back and told me that the clutch kit replacement will be covered 100% by waranty Very Happy

Apparently LR accepted the PA(what ever that means???) completely...... Thumbs Up
Post #148703 5th Jun 2012 11:28am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Regard wrote:
Naks, thought you would want to know......

They just phoned back and told me that the clutch kit replacement will be covered 100% by waranty Very Happy

Apparently LR accepted the PA(what ever that means???) completely...... Thumbs Up



Good to know, now there is a precedent Thumbs Up --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
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Post #148704 5th Jun 2012 11:29am
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robharvey



Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
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South Africa 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Regard wrote:
Apparently LR accepted the PA(what ever that means???) completely...... Thumbs Up


PA = Parts Authorisation
Post #148712 5th Jun 2012 12:50pm
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Naks



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Stealer just called - they say the clutch is in excellent condition, no rattling, no wear on the plate, nothing out of the ordinary.

They are still going to request a new clutch 'just in case' Rolling Eyes --
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2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



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Post #149028 7th Jun 2012 1:27pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
make sure you do not get one of those from the faulty batch..... Puma 110" SW

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Post #149029 7th Jun 2012 1:29pm
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Regard



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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Orkney Grey
Naks wrote:
Stealer just called - they say the clutch is in excellent condition, no rattling, no wear on the plate, nothing out of the ordinary.

They are still going to request a new clutch 'just in case' Rolling Eyes


Question

So did they take it out and inspected?

If so why is nothing wrong but they will order a new clutch??? Rolling Eyes
Post #149033 7th Jun 2012 1:38pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Because they are nearly bad since new. LR should have developed a solution by now (like a good dual mass flywheel) Puma 110" SW

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Post #149036 7th Jun 2012 1:47pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Regard wrote:
So did they take it out and inspected? If so why is nothing wrong but they will order a new clutch??? Rolling Eyes


They are saying they may as well try their luck to get a new clutch approved to see if this solves the rattle.



MK wrote:
make sure you do not get one of those from the faulty batch.....


How? Is there a list of the serial number? --
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2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



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Post #149039 7th Jun 2012 1:54pm
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tatra805



Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
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Slovakia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
been looking into this also lately

was talking with

- Valeo: no puma parts, they have the exact spec for transits but don't sell it for the puma as they are aware of the trouble with the oem clutches and assume their plates would fail also. Double flywheel exists for transit with MT32 (MK, they told me it should fit, although no idea if anything ese would need changing)

- Sachs: no parts

- BB/AP driveline, now Raicam: OEM supplier to LR. so thats the one to go for. No info on bad batches from them. Would be useful to have some data about this.

AP kits from paddocks are not britpart but raicam.
In any case it looks as the britpart clutches are also made by raicam although i don't have confirmation of that. yet.


Smile
Post #149045 7th Jun 2012 3:23pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
tatra805 wrote:
been looking into this also lately

was talking with

- Valeo: no puma parts, they have the exact spec for transits but don't sell it for the puma as they are aware of the trouble with the oem clutches and assume their plates would fail also. Double flywheel exists for transit with MT32 (MK, they told me it should fit, although no idea if anything ese would need changing)

- Sachs: no parts

- BB/AP driveline, now Raicam: OEM supplier to LR. so thats the one to go for. No info on bad batches from them. Would be useful to have some data about this.

AP kits from paddocks are not britpart but raicam.
In any case it looks as the britpart clutches are also made by raicam although i don't have confirmation of that. yet.


Smile


One of the chaps here (CRJ or so) got an email from raicam about the faulty batch (lately).

So, if Valeo said that means there is a design problem. Very very bad!

Mine is ok now but I donīt trust the cheesy plate. Puma 110" SW

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Post #149112 7th Jun 2012 10:43pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
I went to see the clutch this morning. No wear on the clutch or clutch plate, but some of the springs have minor chips and dents. As soon as I picked up the plate and shook it, the springs were rattling bigtime.

Here is a video and some pics:




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Like I mentioned, mine replaced wednesday at no charge all under waranty.

Now there is no more rattles in low gears and A LOT of the previously thought "normal drive train rattles" also vanished Thumbs Up

Like I mentioned, 3 of my springs were apparently loose/out. So I gues if yours are loose it will only be a matter of time before they fail completly.


On another note,
On a local forum it was said that the Ford Ranger pickup's clutch will fit and is more tuff? Think it is the T5 Ranger clutch Question
Post #149129 8th Jun 2012 7:50am
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Regard wrote:
On another note, On a local forum it was said that the Ford Ranger pickup's clutch will fit and is more tuff? Think it is the T5 Ranger clutch Question



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Valeo part number 6681A, this is off the Mazda/Ford 2.5TD pre BT50 model.
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Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
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