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BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712 |
Quick question, when applying acf-50 on crusty bits, do you leave the applied areas a certain period of time to soak in before applying the 4941? Or would you apply straight away? Thanks. |
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19th Aug 2022 10:16am |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Mr Zag - I hope you are well. Good to see you are keeping busy and doing a fantastic job with these motors. just wondering if you might have any more pics of the two grey defenders above. I've been humming and arring for ages in respect of which LED's (clear lens or original) for my stornaway grey 110 (without privacy glass). sorry |
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19th Aug 2022 12:10pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
Yes it's best to leave it a couple of hours if you have only treated a small area and lightly. If however you have lashed it on wholesale over a large area then I leave it at least a day 👍ACF-50 will be still active underneath Dinitrol for many months doing its thing... it's more about letting it go off a bit so that any top coat will not separate. E.g. If you have ever painted on a coat of something when the previous layer has not dried properly it is like that. It can slip down on vertical surfaces but only if applied really thickly which I tend to do... |
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19th Aug 2022 3:40pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
Hi Caterham, sorry that's the only pic I took. |
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19th Aug 2022 3:45pm |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
I can see why you didn't follow in the footsteps of Lord Lichfield in that case - just one photo
no worries. don't suppose you know which shade of grey they are - particularly the one with the clear lens? looking at the LR badge at the back I'm going to guess they're both 2.2s and corris grey? |
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19th Aug 2022 3:48pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
This is truly gorgeous, absolutely mint with none of the usual body issues which is a very rare thing. Largely because it hasn't got rivets to corrode, rear capping weld points to rust, alpine window surrounds to bubble the list goes on but suffice to say she is kept in immaculate condition despite being kept outside under a bespoke cover. No front guttering cracking, no bubbling around the windscreen etc. Has to be in the top five on my books for condition. I have done her from near new and it's nice to see another original example :bow 7500 miles, still smells like new.
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19th Aug 2022 3:54pm |
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BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712 |
Excellent, thanks 🙏 |
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19th Aug 2022 8:26pm |
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Baldinho Member Since: 28 Oct 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 123 |
Caterham, mine's the AV reg one with original lenses (and the huge 6,500 miles ). Should be other photos in my gallery but do shout if you'd like any other photos. PS Chris, thanks for the great service again |
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24th Aug 2022 7:55pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
This is a genuine little fella, used as intended, nice clutch/gearbox, starts on the button etc...
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4th Sep 2022 12:20pm |
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steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 566 |
Anyone ever used any of the Buzzweld products for rust prevention?
Looks like they have some good offerings. https://www.buzzweld.co.uk/zero-prep-ceram...rcoat.html |
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5th Sep 2022 4:28pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
Certainly hope not
They say... "You can apply onto a wet surface with minimal preparation". "U.P. flows in between spot welds, and absorbs into corrosion forcing out the residual moisture and air, suffocating the ability for corrosion to continue". Similar to Lanoguard with claims of stopping rust you are obviously not. You are just coating over corrosion. YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE CORROSION FIRST, it's no good just painting on a barrier. You are just trapping rot in and if you paint it on whilst wet you are trapping that moisture in also making it far worse than if you did nothing at all. There are no short cuts to correcting rust. You need to acid convert or stabilise rust etc first. No product disperses moisture, it soaks into metal, it NEEDS to dry first... they have got that from Waxoyl marketing. It's all been said before, many times. Sorry... |
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5th Sep 2022 4:50pm |
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steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 566 |
I've copiously sprayed underneath with ACF50 which I understand stabilises the rust. Is best just to do this every year rather than add a layer of stuff which just seals the rot in to fester? |
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6th Sep 2022 8:50am |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
Depends on the use of the vehicle but ACF-50 will wash/wear off quite quickly so you will need to spray on a protective coating but one that is not rock hard like Buzzweld (designed 20 years ago to protect the loading area of flat beds in trucks) or a glue Lanoguard that just bubbles, peels away in time but is really time consuming, impractical to get off. Dinitrol 4941 or Corroheat clear will naturally wear off in time (time depending on useage) can be touched up or recoated easily, is not streaky, does not remain tacky etc etc. It's not a con it's a quality product that is straightforward to maintain in the future.
I afraid the job is messy, not easy, can give you lung damage and has to be done properly. There are no effective shortcut products on the market. You would be better just spraying it with oil than Buzzweld or Lanoguard. Widespread advertising fools many unfortunately |
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6th Sep 2022 10:50am |
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kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 |
Heres my experience with a few things - Applied July / August last year. Covered about 8k miles since then, mostly to and from the farm and into and out of the fields through the winter.
Sprays and Waxes ACF - 50 - probably ok if you never leave London or the home counties, lasted a day on mine. Lanougard - gloopy mess, runs off and smells worse than my wellies inside... Buzzweld WAR - useless, lasted about 3 weeks before it was washed off. Blithambler Dynax S50 and UB - decent but messy, You need the thicker one for anything externally facing. Dinitrol Coroheat - Fantastic stuff, did the front end and bulkhead with it, still nice and wax and dry. Paints Arc Rite CIO - Thus far im impressed, cross memeber etc all done and looking good still. Blit Hambler Zinc Primer - Again im pretty impressed with it. Buzzweld coach enamel, quality is decent, colour match not so much... |
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6th Sep 2022 11:17am |
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