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Thegingerninja



Member Since: 29 Dec 2024
Location: London
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 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Fuji White
Removing Rear Seats Replacing with Flip Down
Good evening all.

Sorry if this has already been asked but I’ve had a good hunt and couldn’t find anything. Currently own a 2015 90 XS with 2 forward facing rear seats. If I remove them will it be possible to replace them with 4 flip down inward facing seats? Has anyone done this before and faced issues?

Cheers in advance!
Post #1055853 29th Dec 2024 7:13pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Possible - probably, legal - no.

Your vehicle was type approved with forward facing seats and is of an age which means that inward facing seats are no longer legal. I am sure that you could fit them, but it is is likely to be difficult since the wheal-box profile changed to accommodate the forward facing seats, and it may prove impossible to insure the vehicle afterwards.
Post #1055854 29th Dec 2024 7:21pm
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stick



Member Since: 11 Mar 2018
Location: hants
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I was at the Norfolk show a couple of years ago and Nene Overland had modified a post 2007 (when the rules changed) 110 to their “safari” model with bench seats. I asked them this very question about insurance, they thought it was ok. I am less confident!
Post #1065253 10th Apr 2025 7:59pm
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Rosco



Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
X4SKP has this setup in his puma and doesn’t seem to have fallen foul of any legislation.

Having met him and his lovely other half I’m confident he would have looked into it throughly and made sure it was all above board 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
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2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
Post #1065254 10th Apr 2025 8:13pm
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discomog



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I have a MY2015 90 XS Station Wagon. I removed the rear seats as soon as I took delivery of the vehicle. I removed the seats to give more space for my two dogs. I must admit I've always been a bit wary about negating the type approval but I'm prepared to take a gamble that it's ok insurance wise. However I don't think I would be that confident if I replaced the forward facing OEM seats with side/inward facing ones.

Also not sure I would like the idea of four unsecured bodies in the back if I had to do an emergency stop. Defender 90XS SW
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Post #1065276 11th Apr 2025 11:22am
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Minch90



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When I bought my 58 90 the rear forward facing seats had been removed and replaced with 4 inward facing high back ones complete with internal roll cage with 4 point harnesses mounted for each seat. Professional modification done for original owner who was a MP (means nothing 😂) Never had a prob with MOT or insurance. Replaced with forward facing ones when the kids got too tall (roll cage still in)
Not much help beyond saying people do this 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
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Post #1065330 12th Apr 2025 8:41am
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MatLandy



Member Since: 11 Sep 2020
Location: Paris
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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Was tempted at some point to install « inward facing fold up » seats from Exmoor, same seats as X4SKP has here : https://www.defender2.net/forum/post463268.html
However decided against it, after a test with one seat, due to headroom. There is in reality not enough space for a normal adult to sit in there without having its head twisted and pushed into the roof. Not to mention legroom, it seems unrealistic to sit face to face with another adult.

Inward facing fold up seats are perfect for kids… but that’s all. Appreciate others may have different views.

/Mat
Post #1065370 13th Apr 2025 5:08am
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Screbble



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Mine has the 4 factory fitted bog standard (albeit XS trim) sidewards facing seats. I can understand those comments regarding safety as they only have lap belts and I wouldn’t want to be in one in a crash. My static belts were replaced by inertia belts.

Obviously I have used them over the years and they must be lower than the retrofitted version because they accommodate 6ft plus passengers.

I wouldn’t recommend using them for long journeys and/or higher speed use.

Mine are ‘occasional’ seats - rather like the table my Nan used to have…
Post #1065415 13th Apr 2025 3:50pm
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