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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4700  
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I have e-mailed the European Commission and asked if they are going to enforce this in member states.It is all very well to issue the alert but it is not much good to those affected by it unless it is enforced. Maybe they will reply to me. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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18th Nov 2022 7:25pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4700
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 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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18th Nov 2022 7:35pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4700
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Update. I finally got a reply from the Minister for Transport who informs me that someone else is responsible for safety issues and included links. So I checked these links. The only issue being pursued by Land Rover are the following.
Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited recalls certain Land Rover Defender, Discovery, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover Velar vehicles 31 August 2022 Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited is carrying out a voluntary recall of certain Land Rover Defender, Discovery, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover Velar vehicles. The issue has been identified whereby a manufacturing defect identified on certain front seat belt pretensioners that had caused damage to the pretensioner tubes during assembly. This could result in a reduced level or complete loss of pretensioning in the event of an accident and increase the risk of occupant injury. There are 79 vehicles affected in the Republic of Ireland that were produced between 5 January 2022 to 24 May 2022. and aguar Land Rover Ireland Limited recalls certain Land Rover Discovery passenger vehicles 24 March, 2022 Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited is carrying out a voluntary recall of certain Land Rover Discovery passenger vehicles. The issue has been identified whereby on affected vehicles, due to a manufacturing issue, the fuel feed hose assembly may have been incorrectly routed and as a result could split. This may lead to a fuel leak into the engine bay. A fuel leak in the engine bay compartment may result in an engine bay fire. A vehicle fire could increase the risk of injury or death to vehicle occupants, other road users or bystanders. There are 72 vehicles affected in the Republic of Ireland that were produced between 2018 - 2019. Which means that they still do not regard the axle issue as a safety concern. https://www.rsa.ie/services/vehicle-owners...ity-(amsa) I have contacted the RSA about the alert for the axle. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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22nd Nov 2022 10:55am |
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| macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1081  
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Yes, that's just the latest of *New* Defender recalls. German KBA lists three recalls for the New from MY 2020 on. For our Defender there is nothing new yet since 2018 (a brake pipe/hose recall for MY 2014/15).
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22nd Nov 2022 11:33am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 545  
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A recall is now anounced apparently, according to this news in French here: https://www.caradisiac.com/land-rover-rapp...199436.htm “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
-- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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29th Nov 2022 6:42am |
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| macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1081
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Thank you. Is this "just" what we know already, finally reaching public news (which would mean at least some progress)? Or does it contain new facts? I found an English version of the same text here https://www.byri.net/2022/11/28/land-rover...g-problem/ and it seems all facts were already given in last month's EU Safety Gate alert https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/sc...l/10006914 German recall database shows no new entry. |
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29th Nov 2022 7:16am |
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| Payney1000 Member Since: 16 Feb 2022 Location: Brittany Posts: 24 
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everyone just a quick update !!!!!
I have seen confirmation that JLR have been issued this order for recall by the EU. I can also confirm that they need to action this asap. The source of my information is from the Government UK and they are awaiting JLR response into how they will carry this out !! all the best |
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7th Dec 2022 2:39pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4700
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 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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7th Dec 2022 3:31pm |
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| Payney1000 Member Since: 16 Feb 2022 Location: Brittany Posts: 24
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Dear All
Please see the letter received today by the DVSA. It highlights that the main recall 2014 did not cover all effected vehicles. It also confirms Recall is in place. All the best  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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8th Dec 2022 11:35am |
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| PeeWee Member Since: 13 Apr 2017 Location: Somersetty Posts: 17  
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Following on from Payney1000's comment about work being sent to India to protect TATA locally, I heard somewhere that some/many of the V6/V8 diesel crakshaft failures (e.g. Range Rover, Disco) happened to Indian made crankshafts. True? False? I don't know, but worth considering.
When the weather improves I'll be crawling under my MY2011/110 to look at the axle. |
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11th Dec 2022 5:34pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2028 
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It seems the DVSA are not doing their job, surely they can’t think a catcher bracket is a proper engineering solution. The fact it is called a catcher bracket should raise major engineering concerns to them, else all vehicles would be fitted with catcher brackets.
They should be saying a major component that affects the steering of the vehicle is known to be inadequate and therefore needs replacing with one that is fit for purpose. Else they are saying it’s ok to build a vehicle where the axle will snap as long as the wheel is caught when it does. How can they justify that !!!!! |
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11th Dec 2022 7:06pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2420  
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I am wodering what the bracjets are made of. They are extremely light Puma 110" SW
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11th Dec 2022 7:18pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17437 
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Best cast steel from TATA in India, I imagine.
It would be useful if someone could have a serious accident on a vehicle fitted with the brackets to evidence that even with the brackets the vehicle is unsafe if the axle fails. |
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11th Dec 2022 8:12pm |
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| Angus_Beef Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: Oslo Posts: 434  
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Roger, are you drunk? Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭 |
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11th Dec 2022 9:33pm |
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