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Supacat



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Wow ~ that's gaming the regime but looks like the payoff contributed to them reporting a Q3 £55 million betterment to their £90 million provision.

Not much comfort though, if they cancelled your Xmas present, and said you could have it in January.
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SN



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Given that this is a pathetic EU fine, why do JLR care now? Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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Because they sell cars in the EU 🙄
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First PHEV’s arriving in the UK
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Hopefully a few find their way into the hands of decent motoring journalists! Interested to hear some first reviews Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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The driver has owned up on the FB group to being a JLR employee and it’s a “company” car. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Scrumps



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Hi,

Strange that it’s badged “p400e”. I noticed ours isn’t badged D250 or HSE when we collected it.

Looks like 21MY don’t get a designation like the 4-pots did, hence my “strange” comment😀👍

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Supacat



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AndrewM wrote:
Zed wrote:
deaston wrote:
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Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D


I'm assuming you can't just hope over to Germany and buy it there? I thought that was the point of the EU - free trade and free movement of goods?


I'd presume you could buy it cheaper elsewhere but would still get done for the extra when registering it.


I believe that is effectively how it works. The large taxes in certain countries tend to be registration taxes. These apply even if you already own the vehicle. If you're living in the country for more than 6 months you have to register your car locally. You then pay local registration and road taxes. If you had already paid registration taxes in your previous country you might get a rebate on the original taxes.

You certainly can shop-around for a cheaper purchase price within the EU but you still will be responsible for local non-sales taxes.



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Despite only being a midsize market, the Netherlands has always been particularly progressive with its approach to CO2 based vehicle taxation regulations. This charts explains why. More: https://t.co/8Fuwww7lk1 #taxation #WLTP https://t.co/1NMQXIlr1o https://twitter.com/JATO_Dynamics/status/1373964860573298691?s=20
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For Switzerland it's based on CO2 and weight and is taxed on import. For an example for a V8 Defender the import duties are about CHF 12,750.

Realistically for those buying a highly polluting expensive cost it's not a huge issue. The tax really effects lower cost vehicles with higher-than-average CO2. The most common FFRR here seems to be the supercharged petrol.
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Pacha



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From another forum I frequent - on charge inside.

Battery charger shorted due to being damaged when trapped in closing door.



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Logannz



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Wow... I'm not sure I want that parked in the garage under my house!!
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Logannz



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And that was no charging cable fire in my opinion, you can see how fast it went up by the lack of surrounding damage and the intact ceiling. The whole back of the car is gone, right where the giant lithium battery goes.
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Cheshire110



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Pacha wrote:
From another forum I frequent - on charge inside.

Battery charger shorted due to being damaged when trapped in closing door.



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No reason to think it’s a PHEV though - at my local dealer all the cars are always connected to a battery charger. To keep the thing alive with all the people opening & closing doors, fiddling with the radio, and the DRLs etc on all night. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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Cheshire110



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Plus you’d never short a high voltage cable by trapping it in a door etc...

A cheapo little battery charger on the other hand... Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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Scrumps



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Hi,

It was registered on the 2nd March 21 as a 2.0 petrol so (from what I can find) it’s either a P300 or P400e.

More info here:-

https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/1917...-melksham/

https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/dick-lovet...car-blaze/

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