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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772   
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Hambach acquisition confirmed.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/259029341966006/ Rgds. Chris |
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8th Dec 2020 4:52pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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That's a private group. |
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8th Dec 2020 10:08pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Interesting comment!
Ken Mc Conomy (@McCons) Tweeted: Ignoring the v sad news that we have lost crucial automotive jobs this decision highlights how clueless this govt is when it comes to protecting #UKManufacturing this would NOT happen in Germany, France, Spain, Slovakia, Korea etc............ https://twitter.com/McCons/status/1336585232435306497?s=20  Click image to enlarge |
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9th Dec 2020 8:36am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2629  
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This is the problem when a company like JLR are lead by designers, marketing and PR gurus.
Reminds me of somewhere I worked in the past where the attitude was that if you did not wear cuff links you weren’t important........ |
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9th Dec 2020 8:48am |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...cedes-benz Rgds. Chris |
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9th Dec 2020 8:52am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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9th Dec 2020 9:15am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Just wanted to say that I'm officially out as of today. I thought long and hard about the Grenadier being made elsewhere and not in Britain, and I just can't handle it. There are factors when buying new, and for me this was a big one. I wanted the Defender to be made here. It wasn't (Slovakia???) and that was a strong factor in deciding not to buy it. I had big hopes for the Grenadier. My other deciding factors were pitched in favour of it. But about 75% of those factors were weighed on it being built in Britain. I wanted a British 4x4.
So now I know that isn't going to happen, the Defender came back into the equation. But having seen the TFL video on YouTube, that's out (and I just can't 100% accept the styling!). So it's back to the last surviving option: the Jeep Wrangler. It's going to be black, and it will be lifted. Bye, bye Ineos. You've cost yourself sales, and I can't grasp that. Click image to enlarge Now left. |
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9th Dec 2020 4:27pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Wanted a British 4x4:
Click image to enlarge British-Built Cars (@BritBuiltCars) Tweeted: Ineos Automotive confirm that the Grenadier will be assembled in France and not at a new factory in Wales, as they have bought the 'oven-ready' Hambach plant. Still we've got the @IbexVehicles F8, which I think would eat the new Defender and Grenadier for breakfast. So there. https://t.co/L050irYtwd https://twitter.com/BritBuiltCars/status/1336369972742852616?s=20 |
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9th Dec 2020 5:09pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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Don’t think the current Ibex gets enough press, they’re interesting things.
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9th Dec 2020 5:54pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206 
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Are the Ibex any more roomy and comfortable in the drivers seat than Defender Pumas 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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9th Dec 2020 5:57pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2751
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I wouldn’t get too hung up about things being built in the UK... Comparative advantage says it’s better for Land Rover to built high markup vehicles (Range Rovers, etc) here while keeping costs down as low as possible elsewhere. There’s a reason the VW Group build the Polo in Slovakia/Spain/Russia/Algeria but the Panamera in Germany. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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9th Dec 2020 6:06pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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Think they’re slightly wider inside, looking at how their Defender dashboards fit. |
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9th Dec 2020 6:10pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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"I wouldn’t get too hung up about things being built in the UK"
I get that some people aren't bothered by that. But to me, it was a big factor. Part of the reason why I've loved all three Defenders I've had is because they were British. I run a small manufacturing business, and we make a big thing about the products being built here in GB. Now that I can only buy a foreign 4x4, it might as well be the Wrangler. I see absolutely no reason at all to buy the Grenadier over the Wrangler. They will both be priced the same, and the Wrangler looks MUCH better than the Grenadier!!! (to me). Now left. |
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9th Dec 2020 6:20pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Supacat, I've been spending a lot of my internet time continually checking back on the Ibex website for a few months since you last recommended it to me (I think it was you). It hasn't changed! I actually wondered if they are still in business. If they are, then their business sense is truly terrible. Their website
https://www.ibexf8.com is like a 10 year-old has done it. And it never changes. I was interested in the 2.3. And there was a website somewhere that was talking about them being taken over by the military to build a battle-ready 4x4 for them, but I think it was just boys dreaming. They MUST get someone in to make that website slick. It's pathetic. Now left. |
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9th Dec 2020 6:26pm |
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