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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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"Ineos could shun Wales and Portugal and use plant in Hambach, western France, to become the manufacturing base for the new Grenadier"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...rt-factory |
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7th Jul 2020 10:23am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1031 
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Sounds like someone's shopping around for government subsidy.
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7th Jul 2020 10:56am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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You don't get to be a multi~billionaire by not knowing your way around these things... look after the pennies...
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7th Jul 2020 12:09pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2629  
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Whilst not surprised as Ineos are an international business with an international client base, I would have thought that France would be a pointless place to build a new vehicle.
The reason I say that is the unions have far too much power. I might sound good on paper but the reality could bite in the future. No point speculating until the ink is dry.... |
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7th Jul 2020 12:36pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Well, I've had two vehicles out of that factory over the years, and they were both pretty well built. Nothing fell off and no regular trips to main dealers after collection to put right production line issues.
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7th Jul 2020 1:31pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1400 
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It never made any sense, building such a large chassis frame in Portugal, then shipping it to the UK for the vehicle assembly.
You won't get many chassis' on a wagon, making the transport cost per item very expensive. They aren't building enough to make it worthwhile sending a ship full. Then there's the supply risk of shipping across multiple borders and outside the EU, when you really want a 'just in time' delivery. I'm not surprised, but very disappointed by the news. |
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7th Jul 2020 5:53pm |
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| keef9t Member Since: 13 Mar 2016 Location: manchester Posts: 170 
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Assembled in France ?
My interest in this vehicle is disappearing fast. |
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7th Jul 2020 9:24pm |
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| HK07 Member Since: 15 Dec 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 746 
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They should now change it's name, i suggest;
The Surrender 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned. 1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned. 1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned. |
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7th Jul 2020 9:37pm |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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Totally ironic as JR was a strong Brexit supporter... nice to see he is thinking of putting his money where his mouth is.
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7th Jul 2020 11:39pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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Sounds like the Grenadier team are taking the Grenadiers’ history seriously. British, French and German involvement, could be the Battle of Waterloo. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Jul 2020 6:16am |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 582
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Well the chances of me buying one will disappear if it is built abroad. Hopefully everyone in the U.K. saying the same thing will influence the decision. 80" 1948
Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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8th Jul 2020 7:30am |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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If they end up building outside the UK then it puts it back in the Hilux /Dmax/Navara/Amarok zone. It won't make any difference to the vehicle itself but the psychology of the buying decision will alter against it in the minds of many Defender owners, looking for its spiritual successor. That's certainly how it feels to me. It doesn't mean I won't buy one, just that it's lost one significant advantage, particularly if it is priced significantly above its competitors.
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8th Jul 2020 8:13am |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3496 
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It is definitely marketed as British
But then the iPhone is all American designed in California (but built in China)! JR is a very successful businessman and he will do what is right for his bank balance rather than be influenced by his morals. I expect that if the right sized car manufacturing plant was being closed in the UK, that would be where he would be looking. Trying to build a building from scratch will always be more expensive than re-tooling an existing plant. Bit of a no brainer on his behalf. A real kick in the teeth to Bridgend who are in the process of losing their Ford Engine plant. The other major issue with Bridgend is the M4. It's the only reasonable way in and out of Bridgend and however you feel about road building, if ever there was a road that needed help, this is a good way up the list on needing it. We have friends who live in Bridgend and it can be a real P.I.T.A. if you hit the road at the wrong time or there has been an accident. It's a pain for us, but costs industry millions with trucks and materials / products sitting idle going nowhere for hours on end. |
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8th Jul 2020 8:35am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I thought there was also a good rail link? How was all that steel moved in the recent past.
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8th Jul 2020 9:21am |
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