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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150   
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I quite like that. I imagine my employer might get some if there is a 3 door lwb. Is there a proposed swb version? I see a lot of G wagen in it, plus Defender and some vague Soviet era aspects which is surprising. Not convinced on that huge front bumper but probably a legal requirement.
Not bad at all really. Seems a bit wider than a Defender too. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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1st Jul 2020 11:32am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216 
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As much as I hope it is, I just can't see how it can come in under £40k. Almost certainly not including the VAT in station wagon form. Maybe a SWB or chassis cab could. Just out of interest, anyone know what is the cheapest vehicle of any type you can get with a turbo straight 6 and 8 speed auto? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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1st Jul 2020 11:42am |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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Looks better already 
Now just the rear lights to sort, but they are probably fixed in the design for now. Would like to see it in Aintree green or similar. Edit: if you're doing requests  try making the wing mirrors bigger eg bring the bottom edge down to level with the bottom of the arm.Last edited by apt100 on 1st Jul 2020 2:46pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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1st Jul 2020 12:10pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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This looks great, exactly what I would want to see in a modernised Defender. Functional, some good details, improving on the old design, modular. If this is priced at all competitively I can't see it making any sense to buy a LR Defender. The Ineos people seem to get it and speak with words I can appreciate. Just by listening to the interview and it's patently obvious this is the true spiritual successor to the Defender. None of that verticality BS we had to suffer through.
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1st Jul 2020 12:22pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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I am so, so glad they got this right. It's only been an hour since the video was released, 6 pages in and almost universally positive. What a car. Looks (as so many have said) exactly what the new Defender should have been. McG talking out of his a*** that keeping the essence of the Defender wasn't possible because of constraints palced by EU regs, build costs, platform etc. I hope this sells like hot cakes and makes McG walk away with his (devil's) tail between his legs. But his ego is so big, he won't even understand what this vehicle represents. If I have the cash, I'll buy one. Side view is best, but we will all have our front-ends imprinted on our mind, so it will take time to get used to this new look as they're so close. But as MRD showed, it won't be long before after-market companies produce a new grille. Love the rear as well,and the split door. And it's named after me. Maybe. 
Now just need to see the inside. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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1st Jul 2020 12:30pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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I've been pondering this, with VAT and safety aspects required for a Station Wagon I am guessing its gonna be >£55k in the UK 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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1st Jul 2020 12:44pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Please no ~ let the chaps and chapesses concentrate on delivering this. Get the DCPU up and running:  Click image to enlarge and if there's any spare time ~ PORTAL AXLES Last edited by Supacat on 1st Jul 2020 1:32pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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1st Jul 2020 1:01pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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From the FT: "The company will launch a long-wheelbase model of the vehicle late next year, with a shorter version and a pick-up model to follow. It expects to produce 30,000 cars a year. The price will start at £30,000 and rise to £45,000, according to two people who have seen the plans." I'm crossing fingers on these numbers. |
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1st Jul 2020 1:12pm |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1032 
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Does it have enough 'verticality' for you all?
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1st Jul 2020 1:13pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 
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Not over keen on the bonnet or grille, but everything else is good. Funds permitting, that'll be my next Defender
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1st Jul 2020 1:19pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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So Ineos do this:
Click image to enlarge and JLR do this: Click image to enlarge and who gets labelled as contrived and lazy?  |
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1st Jul 2020 1:29pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17445 
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Not a cravat nor designer suit to be seen at the reveal either! Let the vehicle speak for itself.
I like the look of the XLWB double cab too. |
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1st Jul 2020 1:39pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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Yes I like my 'verticality' with a good helping of 'sheer' in it, and this has plenty! |
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1st Jul 2020 3:10pm |
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| Jerry Member Since: 13 Nov 2015 Location: Cardiff Posts: 199 
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I think it looks good – apart from the bonnet - which doesn’t suit, and would put me off. I think how well it sells just depends on price and reliability. I just don’t know whether mass buyers have moved on in terms of what they are after (eg electronics and lifestyle – I am not talking about the majority who post on here). I think without COVID, the new Defender would be ok.
Obviously, it doesn’t have any heritage – Toyota landcruiser, Mercedes G wagon and Nissan patrol have/had reliability and the Defender (original one) has …umm… ‘character’ earnt over many decades. Personally, I like heritage - even if flawed. |
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1st Jul 2020 3:26pm |
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