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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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But it's false news ~ so you either place a qualifier when posting or take the hit for repeating it. You can't be offended for having that pointed out to you in a neutral matter of fact way.
N1 classification and VAT is a nonsense to most people who don't get to claim it back in any event. The story could have easily been spun the opposite way and a price starting with a 4, after N1 classification and deduction of VAT could be a headline of Grenadier to come in at £33k undercutting DEFENDER and adding to it's woes. Plenty of people have speculated on the selling price for the Grenadier, some think/want it low so they can buy, some think/want it high for their own reasons... that's man maths at it's best. |
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9th Aug 2020 7:43am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3390 
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I ain’t offend, you made the big deal out of it with the long winded rant.
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9th Aug 2020 9:10am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I can see how that may appear long winded if your attention span is not up to retaining more than half of one fact at a time.
Rant - no - just a rebuttal of a piece of tosh journalism. |
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9th Aug 2020 10:16am |
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| Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735
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Come on guys. Let’s all be nice Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!
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9th Aug 2020 11:28am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6604 
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Absolutely no need for this kind of response to a post on here. Not the attitude that you know I expect nor accept.
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10th Aug 2020 9:18am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3390
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No issues here Martin, just a lovers tiff
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10th Aug 2020 10:23am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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J77 -
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10th Aug 2020 1:55pm |
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| tango90 Member Since: 26 Apr 2020 Location: Kildare Posts: 33 
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A bit nervous butting in here after that.
I haven't come across mention of a SWB anywhere so am I correct in assuming there is no plan for one? I think it would be a shame not to have one in the range. |
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18th Aug 2020 7:27pm |
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| redneckwilly Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 12 
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IMHO, it looks like a not quite right imitation of the original defender. I doubt the old or new defender have anything to worry about. I would save some money and buy a used defender...or two.
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22nd Aug 2020 2:12am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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INEOS Grenadier (@INEOSGrenadier) Tweeted:
The first INEOS Grenadier prototype is on show in all its glory at the Concours of Elegance at Hampton Court Palace, this weekend. #Concours2020 #INEOSGrenadier #UltimateOffroader #4x4 https://t.co/Nuy1ZTeVcx https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadier/status/...83520?s=20 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge "The Grenadier will be parked up next to the collection of historic off-roaders that make up Ineos' own private fleet, including an original Mercedes G-Wagen, a Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40, a Willys Jeep and the earliest known production example of the original Land Series I." Last edited by Supacat on 4th Sep 2020 4:14pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Sep 2020 12:37pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3745
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Well
I've recently just had the chance of meeting with a neighbours boyfriend who designs where the switches etc go inside cars... Guess what he's working on...yep The Grenadier So we chatted, he hasn't seen it but he has all the cad files, and dashboard 'look' He said normally they have to do several version in the range, this is odd, he said as he has two options RHD and LHD. The range will have the same. He showed me a very rough render on his phone, being honest it could have been the old defender... Binical in front of driver sort of ipad sized (no dials or any detail just block pictures) then to the middle almost like a double din upgrade in some TDci's there is the 'informatics' screen, in a 16:0 wide format. Then under this was the switch gear buttons like the tdci, on the other side was a grab handle.... like the defender and g wagon. He did say the dash will be plane with 'lines" almost retro and the interior will be able to hosed out. All are automatic but he was not sure if it will have flappy paddles behind the steering wheel. Looks like I will give him a few more weeks then have to have some drinks to find out more |
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4th Sep 2020 1:10pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3263 
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If offered keys to those 5, the Grenadier would be my last pick. WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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4th Sep 2020 1:22pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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More photos from the event:
Click image to enlarge And an article: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ineos-grenadier-2021 Seems they forgot about the new factory but there's a few nuggets in there: Ecuyer admitted to plenty of debate about the Grenadier’s rear-end design: for a long time, the team were settled on a classic split tailgate, before deciding late in the day on the big-door-small-door layout. Tailgates can make vehicles hard to load or unload, said Ecuyer, and the swing-out spare wheel carrier would have been “a nightmare”. The small door can be opened before the large one to provide access to the space-saver tool compartment that’s innovatively pressed into its skin below the glass." And given the recent debate on the visibility of rear lights with doors/spare wheels: " The round tail-lights “share a common language” with the round headlights and are mounted ideally on the extra space provided by the body shoulder, happily where modern law requires them to be visible. “They’re the result of a very practical problem,” said Ecuyer, “not a wafty sketch in a cafe somewhere…” Last edited by Supacat on 4th Sep 2020 4:48pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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4th Sep 2020 2:03pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1400 
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A while back I commented that the alloy wheels on the Grenadier looked like Mopar Jeep wheels.
Now these steel wheels (pictures above) also look like Mopar rims, Mopar 52124455AB 17x7.5" Winter / Off-Road Steel Wheel
https://www.quadratec.com/products/92702_106_07.htm A smart move by Ineos to use a size and pattern the has extensive aftermarket options. |
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4th Sep 2020 2:21pm |
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