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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17352   
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Er, they only appear to be around £30.
Last time I looked you couldn't get a satisfactory manservant for that price, only one rejected by society and probably unwashed and with attitude problems. Don't want a scruff in the back of the truck! The ex-military ones seem to be ludicrous prices (think three figures) but the civvy ones are only around £30 to £35 on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mantec-Tufflift-230/202189304895 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mantec-Tufflift-231/202189310588 |
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17th Apr 2018 10:58am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I didn't realise that Mantec sell them. Mine is an ex-mil one but I didn't pay anywhere near a three figure sum for it
 It came with a large 'U' shaped clamp with centres to match the two holes in the mounting plate, which I assume clamps around some part of the Wolf spare wheel mount. This is the third one I've had on different vehicles, which have all needed to be adapted in different ways to suit the circumstances. This one was the easiest.
I actually met the guy that invented them, at Billing show back in 1990-something. He had a stand and was trying to sell them for £50 each but nobody was buying. He then later secured a contract to supply them for the side mounted spares on Wolf Defenders. I'm not sure how one would fair on your wheel carrier. They do have quite long adjustable straps but they're more for taking up the difference between the sling mounting point and the wheel when positioned on the carrier. Looking at my picture with the wheel on the floor, you'd probably be ok if your final position is no more than about 6 inches higher than standard. Beyond that, you'd end up with the wheel hanging in mid air, which would defeat the object. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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17th Apr 2018 11:52am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841 
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Thanks for these posts guys. I didn't even know such a thing existed, but it's catapulted itself close to the top of the list. I can manage the wheel the 'old fashioned' way, but this would make life a lot easier.
My 'manservant' has decided to leave home and go to Uni, so a plan B is required! Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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17th Apr 2018 12:12pm |
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| Darrens110 Member Since: 04 Jan 2018 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 68
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Looks very nice mate! |
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17th Apr 2018 1:36pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Why, thank you
My most overt security measure arrived today, secured for a bargain on eBay:  Click image to enlarge The pedal lock was put to use straight away but fitting the case will have to wait a few days. Click image to enlarge Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia Last edited by LandRoverAnorak on 20th Apr 2018 9:57pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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17th Apr 2018 6:27pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5150
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Is there a bolt on adaption for the spare wheel? With me been a short arse, man handling a wheel on the back of the door is not going to happen! Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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19th Apr 2018 4:43pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Do you mean more than drilling one 16mm hole? I haven't seen the Mantec version but I'd guess that is designed to fit straight on. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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19th Apr 2018 7:47pm |
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| Profyaffle Member Since: 03 Oct 2016 Location: N Yorks Posts: 527
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I fitted the Mantec one yesterday.. I have a spare wheel carrier with a bulldog wheel spacer fitted to it, it is to space it off the door and it helps with fitting the wheel nuts.. I just removed two of the wheel studs from the spacer to accommodate where the straps come through the two wheel holes.. if that makes sense.. I can now lift and lower the spare without too much difficulty.. whereas before it was impossible for me without using a table to lift it on first..
 1993 200Tdi Defender 90 |
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20th Apr 2018 7:37am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17352
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If you follow the ebay links I posted above you can see the two different Mantec civilian products.
The one designed for the Mantec swing-away carrier has a metal bar which is ver similar to the military version pictured above (I think the bend angle may be different) and has the two holes as pictured above. Apparently there are two holes on the Mantec swing-away which match the two holes in the TuffLift bar and you simply bolt them together. The other version, which Mantec says is designed for the standard LR door mount, has two toggles at the mount end of the straps which are similar if not the same as those at the wheel end, so presumably you put the toggles through two holes. I don't recall there being two holes on the standard door mount, so perhaps you have to drill them yourself. Neither version is designed to fit on the same studs that the wheel mounts to, which I find strange since all mounts of any kind ultimately will have these studs, so you would think that a truly generic lifter would pick up on the studs and thus fit any mount yet invented. |
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20th Apr 2018 9:06am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I see what you mean. It looks like they've adapted their carrier to suit the standard Tufflift bracketry in the first one, which was probably the cheapest alternative, but I can't work out how the other one attaches
 Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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20th Apr 2018 9:36pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Whilst waiting for paint to dry on various parts of my 90, I fitted the Ardsafe for my new Ardcase pedal lock to the front of the seatbox. My USW has the hard, rubbery seat box cover rather than carpet, which makes quite a bulge over the catch for the seat box lid, so I decided to space the Ardsafe out slightly with some 6mm nylon offcuts. I also made some straps to go around the whole thing from double sided Velcro to keep the lock in place when not in use:
Click image to enlarge The seatbox was marked as required and two 8mm holes drilled to mount the Ardsafe just above the rubber floor matts: Click image to enlarge The lock itself sits in there nicely and is properly restrained by the straps: Click image to enlarge Unfortunately, I've managed to clout my leg on it several times already so the jury is out on whether this was a good idea or not  I may try attaching a foam cover to the straps to see if I can live with it.
In other news, I also fitted my most important accessory - my non-age-related number plate 
Click image to enlarge Somebody had stuck the old plates on with what looked like Araldite, which was interesting to remove  Still, the DVLA online process for swapping the plates around was nicely efficient. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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20th Apr 2018 9:55pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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A day of mixed results
I started off with the intention to relocate the BBUS. Took the headlight apart only to find it doesn't have one! It hasn't already been moved either because I checked As I had it all apart though, I decided to fit a set of NAS lights that I've had for a while. Whilst doing so, I managed to blow the fuse for the LH indicators and the alarm, and I've now lost the three flashes when operating the central locking 
Anyway, I think NAS lights are great and this will be the third Defender that I've fitted them to. The fronts are mounted with Bolt-on-Bits plinths, which means they're a straight swap for the originals: Click image to enlarge I deliberately chose orange indicators, and I've changed the side repeaters for orange ones too, as I found the 'sea of grey' front end a bit lacking. I may change the look of the front further in future, but this will do for now: Click image to enlarge The rears are fitted with standard plinths, to which I've stuck neoprene foam gaskets. On previous vehicles I've drilled the body to suit these plinths but, this time, I had a bright idea and used a front plinth to drill matching holes in the rears, so that they use the existing fixings too: Click image to enlarge And the finished article, nice and visible: Click image to enlarge All are fitted with nice, shiny stainless screws. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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21st Apr 2018 6:57pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1210
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Click image to enlarge ''Unfortunately, I've managed to clout my leg on it several times already so the jury is out on whether this was a good idea or not I may try attaching a foam cover to the straps to see if I can live with it''.
Back last September when my usw arrived i fitted the safe just the same as you, After a few weeks and scraped legs I moved it to sit just in front of the second row seats. I fixed it with a strong elastic cord rather than drilling, it is secure and comes out for cleaning the carpets and floor with ease. 2010 XS USW 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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21st Apr 2018 7:17pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Scratch that. Through an unfortunate series of events including trying to fix my hazard lights and an incident with a jet wash, I got to demonstrate both of my alarms to the entire neighbourhood. They were delighted. So, the BBUS definitely went off when I pulled the fuse for the main alarm and sounded different to the main alarm, which went off due to water in one of the door contacts. I just don't know where it is but tracking it down will be a job for another day. On the plus side, I found yet another blown fuse (that's four) which fixed my hazards. The moral of this story is don't fiddle with anything electric whilst the vehicle is locked
Details here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/post702334.html#702334 Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia Last edited by LandRoverAnorak on 20th Nov 2022 4:11pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd Apr 2018 3:09pm |
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