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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Again, care to explain how you can be so sure? Darren
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5th May 2017 5:21am |
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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1397 |
Post #6218165th May 2017 6:21am
"Again, care to explain how you can be so sure?" LRA, let's examine the current situation and what is publicly known about a future Defender: There is very little information, almost none, that's been published by JLR. What has been released is very vague and contains no technical details or styling clues. The reason for this is JLR don't want anyone to know. After the adverse reaction to the DC100, I'm not surprised they are keeping a very tight lid on things. Hundreds of designers and engineers will be working on it, if they are going to make any new vehicle, so how do they manage to keep things secret? By telling those people if they are found to be the source of "commercially sensitive leaks", they will have to find a new job. So those that do know are keeping very quiet about it. Certainly no one would say on an open forum "I work in suspension testing and we had a..... last week". Every now and again we might get someone pass off a little info, quietly, without making a big statement. They don't want to loose their job, or a close relative or friend's job. So the rest of us have to accept those snippets, figure out which ones are real/credible, and wait for the official company line. |
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5th May 2017 3:37pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
I understand all of that but given that a lot of posts in this and other similar threads are along the lines of "it's all pointless speculation" then really, what is the point without at least some hint of authenticity?
I've no doubt that some on here know some real details and they've been told by their employer (either JLR or somebody associated) to keep stum. Some of the unsubstantiated statements though, sound to me as if they've got a secret and just can't wait to show off a bit by letting everybody know. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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5th May 2017 6:13pm |
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David T Member Since: 01 Sep 2016 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 190 |
I've just read in business news that Jaguar Land Rover are teaming up with Damon Albarn's virtual reality rock band "Gorrillaz" to recruit staff. Could these be for a virtual reality quality control department for the new Defender?
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19th Jun 2017 2:21pm |
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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1397 |
David, you've broken the longest silence on this topic for ages.
6 weeks with no speculation, no rumours and still no official news. Have we all got bored with it and don't care anymore? |
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20th Jun 2017 5:52pm |
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Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223 |
ditto 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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20th Jun 2017 6:16pm |
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JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7904 |
I like a bit of speculation and gossip can't for the truth though! James
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20th Jun 2017 6:56pm |
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Entreq Member Since: 02 Jun 2015 Location: Lake Constance Posts: 43 |
This is correct. The new Defender will be made in Nitra and will have the small windows in the back and in the roof again. |
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11th Aug 2017 1:13pm |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804 |
Agreed. Do we think this transition has been badly managed by JLR or are there some big-black-spectacled marketing gurus amongst us who think it's been excellently managed. The silence is more like a nail in the coffin (akin to the original shut-down of the Mini or Beetle) than a transition before re-launch. Makes me wonder if it's deliberate to kill off the bearded weirdos who make up the current Defender fan before re-launching to an entirely new, young urban adventurer market? Bar name, I can't see them wanting any transfer of the history between the two. It'll be like the newer Wranglers, aimed at someone who works in some cool 21c office job in the week, before throwing their 10k carbon MTB on the back, ropes and harnesses in the boot, paddle board on the roof, and heading to the hills wearing Arc'teryx and Salomon trainers for a weekend of outdoor action. Just like the ads. Sounds like my life, I should be given one to trial. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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11th Aug 2017 1:47pm |
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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1397 |
Agree with that 100%
They don't want a link with the old model. |
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11th Aug 2017 3:35pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
Nitra. So it will be a Slovakia assembled truck. Probably a big quality improvement versus if it would be assembled again in Solihull. But let's hope it won't look like a (Dodge) Nitro. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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11th Aug 2017 5:37pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
Coming to think of it. The new JLR Slovakia plant is confirmed and apparently should supply its first model by end of 2018. A new Discovery apparently.
Olaf may have hit the nail on the head there with saying that the new Defender will also be produced in Nitra. That might even be the reason why there are no real sightings of early Defender test mules reported on U.K. roads. They may be running on the Slovakia roads, which probably is a more discreet place than the U.K. for that purpose. Eric http://media.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2016...=corporate Google maps confirms the above. The plant is quite visible already and the JLR name gets mentioned if you zoom enough https://www.google.ch/maps/place/Nitra,+Sl...d18.076376 https://www.google.ch/maps/place/Nitra,+Sl...d18.076376 https://www.google.ch/maps/place/Nitra,+Sl...d18.076376 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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12th Aug 2017 5:29am |
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gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5109 |
As this thread is getting far too serious and is full of speculation and seems to be taking on to much fake news I thought I would post this factual news photo.
The worlds critically acclaimed Chief Design Officer for Land Rover; Gerry McGovern, on dress up Friday is seen test driving one of his early New Defender concept vehicles. You have seen it here first For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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12th Aug 2017 2:55pm |
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discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2526 |
It's nice to know that the new 2018 Defender drivers will be waiving at each other as well. I don't think so. Defender 90XS SW
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12th Aug 2017 5:49pm |
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