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Swine&Small



Member Since: 20 Mar 2017
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This is all smoke and mirrors,
It will never be produced Banging Head anywhere 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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Post #620514 30th Apr 2017 10:43am
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Pickles



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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
No firm FACTUAL info from anyone,....amazing "Secret keeping" by JLR!
Like some, I wish there wasn't going to be another Defender,...but there will be.
I know NOTHING at all, but IMHO, we will all know what the "New" Defender will comprise in 2018....now I know that's not being very specific at all, but without anything FACTUAL FROM JLR, it's the best I can do!
Pickles.
Post #620671 30th Apr 2017 11:25pm
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myonehere



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..there ARE several new Defenders at Gaydon.. long and short, various specs.....
Post #621221 3rd May 2017 7:14am
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LandRoverAnorak



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With the greatest respect, a statement like that on its' own means nothing. A bit of context would be helpful to explain how you can be so certain. Do you perhaps work for JLR or is it just a tale from a mate of a mate who does? Do you deliver the sandwiches and have seen them your own eyes? Or is it just a strongly held belief that Land Rover will deliver? Darren

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Post #621228 3rd May 2017 8:08am
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defender9



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
When my son and I were at Solihull in February for the Reborn Tour the guy who was conducting the tour mentioned that the new Defender was on site but well out of sight.
Post #621405 3rd May 2017 6:55pm
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Pickles



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I believe that would be the case, as I believe JLR know exactly what the new Defender will be, but NO-ONE else does.
Pickles.
Post #621518 3rd May 2017 11:38pm
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
On the assumption it is actually released next year as suggested, then it must be at or very close to road testing! Whistle Shocked Confused James
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Post #621568 4th May 2017 8:42am
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blackwolf



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I reckon that it is already on the road being tested, but no-one's noticed because it looks exactly like all the other Landrover products that are now available.

One thing that I do think is a certainty is that the new Defender won't actually be a "Defender", ie a proper working truck that can be hosed out, cross the Darien Gap, or mount cherry pickers and equipment for killing locusts. It will be another high-priced, technology-stuffed, 'infotainment'-rich SUV aimed more at the yuppie market. It will probably be very competent off-road, but most will never get there.

And I will be delighted if I am wrong with this prediction!
Post #621575 4th May 2017 8:55am
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Disco_Mikey



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Scotland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
Same as everything else they build then Laughing
Post #621576 4th May 2017 8:57am
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Tiger



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I reckon that it is already on the road being tested, but no-one's noticed because it looks exactly like all the other Landrover products that are now available.


Well LR only really have 3 platforms....

RR/RRS/D5 all alloy platform

D4 platform (obsolete)

DS/Ewok platform

Not really a need to test any of them as they are all used in other vehicles just stick a new body on....
Post #621578 4th May 2017 9:13am
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Capt_Steve



Member Since: 10 Jan 2012
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England 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
Whilst on a recent Experience day, arriving early I was chatting to an engineer that was working on something RR shaped under a cover (all I saw was a yellow triangular sticker, with a lightning symbol).

A nice chap that had been with LR since he left school commented on my Defender and how much he loved driving them, even having one of the last as his 'work' vehicle.

When asked about the new one, he admitted that he didn't know much about it other than he doubted it would be on the road before 2020. Now whether this was based on something concrete, something he read on here or he has a crystal ball, I don't know. But thought I would share.
Post #621580 4th May 2017 9:30am
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milesr3



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2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
All the spy shots out there are the Velar, 2018 FFRR and possible RRS coupe. Unless they are using the RR/RRS/D5 platform to test the new Defender drivetrain, then it hasn't broken cover in public yet.
Post #621581 4th May 2017 9:48am
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BuckBlu110



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I'm sure there's a interview with Gerry McGovern, the lead designer at LR, from earlier in the year, on the net somewhere and he said that it was undergoing tests now, it's out and about and is a very capable machine and he had driven it himself and loved it. It might have been on auto car or something, although I can't find it now Confused
Post #621586 4th May 2017 10:34am
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BuckBlu110



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel CSW Buckingham Blue
A couple of links pointing to it nearing completion from both top JLR boss Ralph Speth and McGovern:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-land-rover-de...ss-1609017
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...018-launch
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diduan



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blackwolf wrote:
... It will probably be very competent off-road, but most will never get there...


Well it depends what do you understand under competent off-road. If it is the ramp angle, departure angle, approach angle, body clearance, terrain control etc. ... well, maybe. My personal feeling is, that all this data may seem impressive if you want to show off in the bling ski resort up there, but a vehicle based on the new disco platform, will in my opinion never be off-road competent. Why? Don't forget that you will hit that hidden rock and your underbody will suffer badly. You will also slide sideways in mud and ruin your expensive doors, not to mention all the lamps that will then tell you that your smashed door is open Rolling with laughter I wont even think about the plastic bumpers. Again, in my opinion this type of vehicles will never be capable off-road...or they may be capable, but only once, until they hit the first obstacle and suffer irreparable damage. Then just call the hotline Mr. Green
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