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Femund



Member Since: 21 Apr 2008
Location: Norway
Posts: 12

Norway 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Hi from Norway!

I have been checking the fuel consumption on my Puma, which I got in Januar 2008.
From 04.01.2008 -> 14.12.2008, driven 20798 km, in average 1.06 liter/10km.
Best 0.83 liter/10km, worst 1.43 liter/10km (towing my 2000kg caravan).

I'm on my third fuel rail now.........so far so good.
It's the most quiet one I've had yet, even from cold. (Cold = -15ºC) 08MY Defender 2.4 SE
Post #5591 17th Dec 2008 8:00am
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8030

 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
19.9mpg on last fill, (thats 230miles trip with my challenge truck behind it) so worse than the td5 in the same scenario.

25mpg average over the first 1k miles. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #5912 4th Jan 2009 5:27pm
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alantd



Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Just completed 1200 mile round trip to Scotland.

110 fully loaded with 4 adults, 1 child and about as much luggage as is possible to fit in the back (which is quite a lot).

Mostly motorway driving between 65 and 80.

Very comfortable; no issues.

Average fuel consumption of 23.6 mpg (UK)
Post #5921 4th Jan 2009 6:29pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
I have just done 291 miles and had to fill up again with 65 lts. Thats about 20.3 mpg ish
Post #5925 4th Jan 2009 6:55pm
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fekete



Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
we've all got a bulge in are bonnet over fuel.
But its worth it to drive round in a Defenda Whistle
Post #5927 4th Jan 2009 7:16pm
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dgardel



Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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Italy 
Femund wrote:
Hi from Norway!

...........

I'm on my third fuel rail now.........so far so good.
It's the most quiet one I've had yet, even from cold. (Cold = -15ºC)


Could you explain me better...

In my Puma the injection "noise" is noticeable when push the gas pedal....
Post #5938 4th Jan 2009 11:07pm
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dgardel



Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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gtveloce65 wrote:
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I too have suffered from the engine going into crazed rattle mode. ............


Hi GTV,

what do you mean with "crazed rattle mode", can you describe it?
Post #5939 4th Jan 2009 11:11pm
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Femund



Member Since: 21 Apr 2008
Location: Norway
Posts: 12

Norway 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
dgardel wrote:
Could you explain me better...
In my Puma the injection "noise" is noticeable when push the gas pedal....

I've had plenty of noise with my previous two fuel rails. Especially after start up and driving a couple of 100 meters. I tried not to exceed 2000rpm when cold, imagine that this was a critical figure when cold. Both previous fuel rails resulting in fault messages. First fuel rail, no indication, but fault message stored. Second fuel rail, 'check engine light' was illuminated and fault message stored.
When using the Webasto engine pre heater (on the two first fuel rails), there were less noise from cold, but heavy knocking from time to time.

The fuel rail installed now is as I said, the most quiet one. The engine feels like it's had an engine tuning Cool and the 'mpg' is also better now. Even cold start in -25ºC without Webasto was fine!

I'm not talking about normal diesel engine knocking!! 08MY Defender 2.4 SE
Post #5958 6th Jan 2009 9:06am
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
I have had about 6 or 7 fuel rails and sensors.

It is at the dealers again, they took it for a test drive this mornign so to prove or dissprove my complaint for the last 14 months about how awful and noisy it is when cold. I think after all these fuel trails it must be something else.
Post #5962 6th Jan 2009 10:29am
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
The Boy wrote:
I have had about 6 or 7 fuel rails and sensors.

It is at the dealers again, they took it for a test drive this mornign so to prove or dissprove my complaint for the last 14 months about how awful and noisy it is when cold. I think after all these fuel trails it must be something else.


Mine is a little more noisy when cold...ive thought nothing of it - seems just like most of them Mike
Post #5964 6th Jan 2009 11:07am
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
mse wrote:
The Boy wrote:
I have had about 6 or 7 fuel rails and sensors.

It is at the dealers again, they took it for a test drive this mornign so to prove or dissprove my complaint for the last 14 months about how awful and noisy it is when cold. I think after all these fuel trails it must be something else.


Mine is a little more noisy when cold...ive thought nothing of it - seems just like most of them



No mine does the death rattle (sounds like it is about to explode) I have been fighting LR for 14 months now on this. Sometimes when it does it shuts every thing down and has to be recovered (about 10 times) other times not. They simply put a new fuel rail on and give it back. Now LR (not dealers) say they want proof it is doing it (they think I am some kind of nutter who is making it up). Today (hopefully) the two managers went out in it and it (I am told but waiting for them to confirm) did it to them. When it does its death rattle it also takes off up to 2.5rpm and drives its self for about 3 to 7 seconds and the only way to stop is depress the clutch. Using the foot break only will not stop it as i found out when it shot accross a junction on the main A6 nearly killing me and the drivers of the two cars who just missed me. Embarassed One of which threatend to punch my lights out and thought I had beeen drinking. Embarassed
Post #5967 6th Jan 2009 11:24am
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
Sounds a little worse Shocked

almost as bad as our new freelander on the M42 when it refused to disengage cruise control. from inside to middle lane - classic car there doing 50 couldnt go back into inside, outerlane full (again classic) ended up jamming my foot on the brake peddle as the 3rd time it re-engaged back up to 70 was no fun Mike
Post #5976 6th Jan 2009 4:46pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
mse wrote:
Sounds a little worse Shocked

almost as bad as our new freelander on the M42 when it refused to disengage cruise control. from inside to middle lane - classic car there doing 50 couldnt go back into inside, outerlane full (again classic) ended up jamming my foot on the brake peddle as the 3rd time it re-engaged back up to 70 was no fun



Not a nice thing to happen, I hope you had some srong words with the dealers.
Post #5980 6th Jan 2009 7:20pm
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5035

United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
The Boy wrote:
mse wrote:
Sounds a little worse Shocked

almost as bad as our new freelander on the M42 when it refused to disengage cruise control. from inside to middle lane - classic car there doing 50 couldnt go back into inside, outerlane full (again classic) ended up jamming my foot on the brake peddle as the 3rd time it re-engaged back up to 70 was no fun



Not a nice thing to happen, I hope you had some srong words with the dealers.


Yes but it logged no faults and hasnt happened again, so your in the old...doesnt really matter Mike
Post #5981 6th Jan 2009 7:26pm
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Stephan



Member Since: 13 Nov 2008
Location: Windhoek
Posts: 12

Namibia 2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Alpine White
Just return from a bush trip driving on gravel and bad road by previous day heavy rain. The average is now at 10.6 liter per 100 km. Meiring II is now weighted to about 4 tonnes fully loaden (as it was for hte week end) and i got a roof tent on top of the alu hard top which is 2 inches above the roof of the dual cab.

Very happy with the fuel usage. Very Happy

Stephan Stephan

Meiring II - 130 Puma 2008
Meiring I - 110 200TDI 1989/1991
Post #6286 14th Jan 2009 7:20am
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