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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105   
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Quick update, just had call from MCLR, they've already put it on the hoist, just in the off chance that it would be "a quick fix to get me back on the road". Not bad when they said they couldn't get to it till Friday.
Unfortunately the transfer case has to come off, head technician says that it's highly likely from the noises made and past experience, that the output shaft has failed. |
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3rd Jan 2017 11:08pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109  
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How long would the Ashcroft one take to get to you
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3rd Jan 2017 11:11pm |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105
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Not sure, especially this time of year. I purchased my kit through Les Richmond, they fit a lot of Ashcroft gear here in Melbourne.
Most parts I order from the UK take 1-2 weeks, sometimes quicker than local post. But i do hear from others who have purchased Ashcroft's products, that they're postage is pretty swift |
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3rd Jan 2017 11:18pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 
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Drive flanges? Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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3rd Jan 2017 11:20pm |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105
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I gave the vehicle a good going over before our trip, rears have HD Hi Tuff Engineering axles and flanges, used to be Maxi Drive. Fronts are standard. There was no play in either when I removed the caps to grease.
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3rd Jan 2017 11:26pm |
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| Avion8 Member Since: 26 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 281 
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Sorry to hear about your woes, but out of interest how many kms since your Ashcroft kit was installed. Thinking of having the Ashcroft kit installed in mine once out of warranty. 1955 Series 1 107" Pick up.
1977 RRC Suffix 'D'. 2000 Defender 110 TD5 Xtreme. 2015 Defender Heritage 90. |
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4th Jan 2017 7:07am |
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| Scoobeenut Member Since: 04 Mar 2015 Location: West London Posts: 310  
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Be interesting to see if it is the Ashcroft kit that has failed, have not heard of one failing yet.
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4th Jan 2017 7:42am |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105
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The kit was installed August 2016, and I've done just over 7000Km's since. I also have not heard of it failing, it would be unusual for it to totally let go after such a short period of time. Especially after seeing the old shaft that came out of the vehicle, it was bone dry and worn but still usable......just, after 80,000km's of use and no lube from factory.
Still counting my lucky stars that it didn't happen whilst in the Avon Wilderness, with the kids. We didn't see another 4wd in 6-7 days. I have sent Ashcrofts a quick email, and Dave said to keep him updated. If I had a choice it would go back to the original installer, but they don't open till the 16th. So dealer prices it is then....  |
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4th Jan 2017 8:45am |
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| pjb Member Since: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Sunny Oxford Posts: 1244 |
Cannot believe an Ashcroft shaft would fail in such a short time & mileage
I wonder if the LR garage are going for obvious normal fail point rather than looking at it properly 
Only time will tell & hope its fixed quickly for you 2020 P300 HSE |
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4th Jan 2017 11:35am |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2245 
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Did you try driving it on diff lock at all, that would have helped diagnose whether it was axle/diff related or transfer box.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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4th Jan 2017 2:13pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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I assume from the comments above that it has been established (by locking the centre diff) that it is not an axle fault. It seems exceptionally unlikely that the Ashcroft parts could fail through fretting and wear in the mileage you have done (I suppose if there was no oil in the main gearbox the shaft wouldn't get lubricated, but I suspect that the gearbox would fail before the shaft). It is I suppose possible that the Aschroft shaft had an internal metallurgical defect since manufacture and has failed. It will be apparent as soon as the transfer box is off, though. Mainshaft failure in the main gearbox would seem to be another possibility. Please let us know what you find. |
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4th Jan 2017 3:32pm |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060 
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Sorry to hear of your plight.
I also had the original shaft swapped out at 80000 kms and replaced it with the Ashcroft one only a month ago. The original shaft was dry, worn and rusty but still functioning. Waiting to see what the diagnosis is. Could also be a halfshaft, flange, an installation fault on the Ashcroft, or a material fault on the original piece supplied to them. Fingers crossed..... 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs, Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons |
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4th Jan 2017 4:49pm |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105
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As blackwolf said, the first thing I tried when pulled over in the hard shoulder was locking the centre diff.
As soon as I know more, I will post, I was also thinking of mainshaft failure, but i guess its all speculation at the moment. |
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4th Jan 2017 6:00pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3785 
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G'day Ozy,..again,....from sunny downtown Aspendale.
Great forum this, isn't it?.....There'll be plenty of guys on here, who'll be interested to see what's happened. Regards, Pickles. |
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4th Jan 2017 10:33pm |
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