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TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3750

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

BigRuss wrote:

Just looking at the list prices from patriots website a 110 rack is £1000 + £200 for powder coating.

While having a look around on the price list I saw that they did a ladder for DC defender which also carries the weight of the back of the rack. Now I know what ever rack I have will be supported the length of the gutter either side of the vehicle, but what about using the DC supporting type ladders at the back as a way of transfering the weight of the rack and load to the chassie.

I think the best person to ask about the weight of a patriot rack would be Leeds.

If i am reading the above post right ??

The Patriot rack for the DC, needs 2 rear ladders, to support the rear of the rack, But if fitted onto a 110 SW, you can only fit the l/h rear ladder, as the right hand one fouls the rear door mounted spare wheel on the SW

My Patriot rack, was also a DC one, i bought 6/7 years ago, and now done a fair bit of work, but still going strong California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

9th Jan 2011 11:19pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

TJ I think you are right.

The standard 110 rack has two leg assemblies/4 clamps per side. LH access ladder is optional extra

IIRC the DC one has one leg assembly and two claps per side for the roof and two ladders at rear.

I would guess that if you bought the extra ladders you could make a standard 110 rack fit a DC etc.

RH ladder on DC rack would most likely fail on spare wheel

Hope that makes sense

Brendan

9th Jan 2011 11:33pm

discocuzzy

Member Since: 16 Jul 2008
Location: surrey
Posts: 1200

I had to buy 2 additional cross bars for the double cab version to fit and Paul at Patriot kindly swapped my 2 double cab ladders for a single CSW left hand side one FOC You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things

10th Jan 2011 1:59am

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3750

Yep,, correct Brenden,,

My 04 DC i bought the Patriot rack for, with the twin rear ladders (somewhere in Spain 7 years ago )

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Same rack fitted to the 09 Puma, I fitted a alloy plate to replace the r.h ladder at the rear,,have since done the same as discocuzzy and fitted another crossbar as well

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California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

10th Jan 2011 8:57am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

Interesting chequer plate box on top of your rack TJ. 2mm or 3mm chequer plate? Home made or custom made for you? How much does it weigh?

Come across some ali boxes in Scandinavia on our travels. You can see it in bottom right hand corner of photo

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Lightweight with dust and rubber seal. Standing up well so far

Also have had ex army ali boxes. One cracked on the corner of the deep lid.

Don't you just love the way threads can wander?

Brendan

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10th Jan 2011 10:16am

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3750

leeds wrote:
Interesting chequer plate box on top of your rack TJ. 2mm or 3mm chequer plate? Home made or custom made for you? How much does it weigh?

Brendan

Custom made to whatever size you want,,mine is just the bit lower than the roof tent
Sonic put me onto the supplier ?? will go and check who it was, he was on e-bay, their is a topic on here about them somewhere, but works and made well, Would need to weight it, as can not remember California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

10th Jan 2011 11:27am

BigRuss

Member Since: 15 May 2010
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 2785

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

TJ101 wrote:
BigRuss wrote:

Just looking at the list prices from patriots website a 110 rack is £1000 + £200 for powder coating.

While having a look around on the price list I saw that they did a ladder for DC defender which also carries the weight of the back of the rack. Now I know what ever rack I have will be supported the length of the gutter either side of the vehicle, but what about using the DC supporting type ladders at the back as a way of transfering the weight of the rack and load to the chassie.

I think the best person to ask about the weight of a patriot rack would be Leeds.

If i am reading the above post right ??

The Patriot rack for the DC, needs 2 rear ladders, to support the rear of the rack, But if fitted onto a 110 SW, you can only fit the l/h rear ladder, as the right hand one fouls the rear door mounted spare wheel on the SW

My Patriot rack, was also a DC one, i bought 6/7 years ago, and now done a fair bit of work, but still going strong

I see what you mean about the second ladder but the principle of having supports (custom made) so there is one either side of the vehicle transferring the weight to the chassie was the idea, just used the second ladder as an example.

Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black

10th Jan 2011 12:43pm

BigRuss

Member Since: 15 May 2010
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 2785

TJ101 wrote:
leeds wrote:
Interesting chequer plate box on top of your rack TJ. 2mm or 3mm chequer plate? Home made or custom made for you? How much does it weigh?

Brendan

Custom made to whatever size you want,,mine is just the bit lower than the roof tent
Sonic put me onto the supplier ?? will go and check who it was, he was on e-bay, their is a topic on here about them somewhere, but works and made well, Would need to weight it, as can not remember

Is this who you mean?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-alloy-stor...4aa7b16807 Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black

10th Jan 2011 6:42pm

TC

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 715

Patriot Offer

Evening all,

I was over Bedford way today so dropped into Patriot for a look around and a chat. Top line, they are keen to do business.

The offer:

Orders for 4 or less members will attract a group discount of 10% off anything ordered
Orders for 5 or above members will attract a group discount of 15% off anything ordered

Key points to note:

- Any order picked up from them direct as part of the group buy (in lieu of free delivery) will be eligible for free fitting
- Discounts are not available against powder coating as they outsource the work to a 3rd party.
- The discount is offered against retail prices however the currently available price list is at the old VAT rate of 17.5%, you will need to add on the 2.5% VAT increase manually to calculate the current retail.
- The discount is based upon all valid orderes being made within a reasonably short time span - we will need to coordinate and purchase within 2 or so weeks of each other.

Carl at Patriot will handle order placement direct once we have gotten to the point of commitment.

Any questions, give me a shout.

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10th Jan 2011 6:42pm

TC

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 715

Given that two of you have shown interest in Hannibal, on Wednesday I will contact a couple of suppliers and get a feel for any deals to be had.

Cheers

Steve

10th Jan 2011 6:44pm

BigRuss

Member Since: 15 May 2010
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 2785

Seems very reasonable to me.

Just to clarify, the racks (other than DC ones) do not come with ladder correct? Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black

10th Jan 2011 6:51pm

TC

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 715

BigRuss wrote:
Seems very reasonable to me.

Just to clarify, the racks (other than DC ones) do not come with ladder correct?

Correct Russ.

10th Jan 2011 7:07pm

TC

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 715

Having seen the kit first hand, I can certainly see where the money goes. The fit and finish are exceptional......you would know exactly where your money had gone.

I can though see the arguments people have with weight, if they genuinely are 13 / 15kg's heavier than the Hannibal equivalent then you have a tough decision to make.

The price I suspect will be very similar come the end.......its a construction versus weight debate again I think.

At 10 / 15% off though, unless we can get Hannibal at 20%

, I know where I want to put my money

10th Jan 2011 7:13pm

TC

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 715

BBSJK wrote:
I'd be interested in a Patriot rack and ladder, powdercoated black. It's on the list of mods to do but not near the top so I might not be able to justify the funds. However if it is a good price then I'd be silly to miss it!

Anyone know how the spare wheel mount fits to the rack?

Jonathan

Hi Jonathan, here you go:

http://www.racksdirect.co.uk/Defender_Patriot.htm

and:

http://www.racksdirect.co.uk/images/patrio...ose-up.jpg

and:

http://www.racksdirect.co.uk/images/patriot/spare_wheel_mount.jpg

10th Jan 2011 8:49pm

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey

How about this for an option to hold up a patriot rack

could be persuaded to part with it....

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10th Jan 2011 9:00pm

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