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Martin
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dgardel wrote:
2.2 and 2.4 are the SAME engine!

Yes, I know Thumbs Up
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just a thought about the 2.4 being holomogated for the military etc.
are all the LR 2.4 puma's fitted with solenoid injectors? presumably a change to the 2.2 could still retain the solenoid injectors and are these really more robust than the piezo jobbies? I believe my wife picasso has the piezo injectors and has no problems running the last 2 years on pure home made bio and several people on here have had injectors replaced possibly relating to fuel contamination (fuel tank breather issues).

I know the hard core with 2.4 / solenoid inj will swear blind thats the best option but surely a 2.2 with less emisions similar power and piezo injectors would be better?
- especially if the road tax was £200 cheaper?
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I gather this engine isn't going to be 'on-line' till mid 2011. its going to include a dpf (particulate filter).
ford trying to standardise their range of engines apparently.
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Caterham wrote:
especially if the road tax was £200 cheaper?


£200 cheaper and they would be giving me money Rolling with laughter thats the advantage of a commercial Thumbs Up
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What happened on this topic, any new rumours? Martin seemed to think 2.2 was coming (and knows some people that know some people), but I see mention of 2011 now?

Can't see DPF in a Defender, not very practical? Its also a very expensive item...
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So the 2.2 is coming? Did I miss another thread?

http://www.lro.com/news.php?sid=580&page=1 Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
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TallPaul wrote:
So the 2.2 is coming? Did I miss another thread?

http://www.lro.com/news.php?sid=580&page=1

Thread about that a while ago.

dont think its likely Mike
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Don't they need an EU5 engine by January though under the EU scheme they reclassified all the Defenders as Commercials with? Puma = EU4 no? Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
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TallPaul wrote:
Don't they need an EU5 engine by January though under the EU scheme they reclassified all the Defenders as Commercials with? Puma = EU4 no?


Im sure they dont, no Mike
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Off on a tangent, but this is not the 1st time I have heard that they are reclassifying all defenders as commercials, does this mean that the90 CSW will also be a commercial, ie £200 RFL?????
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ISTR no 2.2 hence they are all commercials Thumbs Up
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Yes to both...but i hear its 210 now Mike
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Got date wrong its Jan 2012. Its from Land Rovers own information so I am pretty sure its correct Whistle

Quote:
"ECWVTA is a system allowing a vehicle designed to be 'type approved' for sale, registration and entry into service across all member states in the EU without the need for further testing in each country.

...

Therefore from MY11 all derivatives are being re-homogolated to N1 commercial vehicle status classification under the ECWVTA system. This change will mean that the Defender range will need to comply with EU5 emissions from 1 January 2012."


So its 2.2 or another EU5 lump, or end of the road. Replacement on time? Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
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the puma was only ever shelf lifed at 5 years so (as with most models anyway are around 6/7 before something changes) so 07 - 12 is right.

By then the new defender should have been launched. they have been working on it for a while Thumbs Up Mike
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peterl wrote:
Off on a tangent, but this is not the 1st time I have heard that they are reclassifying all defenders as commercials, does this mean that the90 CSW will also be a commercial, ie £200 RFL?????


Sorry, does this mean a new 90 CSW will be £210? and from when
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