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big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red

Drove a tuned 2.2 today all I can say is ...

Well I got to drive a 2.2 that tuned today and all I can say is wow it's amazing it's on par if not better than the 2.4 and it just has so much to give really impressed

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

30th Jun 2013 4:33pm

Norm4n

Member Since: 31 Aug 2012
Location: Surrey
Posts: 329

So all that money on a 3.2 was for nothing

30th Jun 2013 4:35pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6126

I would have thought for the same power output (And more torque?) the 3.2 would be far less stressed?

and being a 5 pot will just sound so much better than a 4

30th Jun 2013 4:42pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Oh believe me it got a long way to catch that up roughly 66hp to be exact lol
Just the first 2.2. I driven and I think there great

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

30th Jun 2013 4:51pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I don't think they're great at all and neither does a fellow forum member that has one.......and a few others....

Could be though if the 'rev hang' problem could be solved.....

I know Pete is working on it and hopefully will come up with a cure......there'd be a few more that would undoubtedly darken your door for remaps if that was the case....

bell-auto-services wrote:
Hi
I appreciate that the landrover rev hang is not as everyone wants and we don't address it directly with a current remap. Though are looking into making it a little more refined than Landrover have left it at some point as it seems to be what people want.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20992.html?highlight=hang If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

30th Jun 2013 5:07pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

It's personal preference though that was as I say the first drive of av2.2 and I didn't notice rev hang ?!

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

30th Jun 2013 5:10pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Loads of others have.....You'd undoubtedly be onto a winner and a money spinner with a cure.....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic18451.html?highlight=revs

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic19325.html?highlight=revs

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic19272.html?highlight=revs If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

30th Jun 2013 5:22pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

I know pete is looking In to it , but as I'm sure your aware people don't want ecus opened for a map so why would hey want it opened for something less meaningful and less rewarding
I do also know pete is working very hard daily on a full obd solution but that could be months away yet maybe the rev hang solution would be more interesting to people with the obd solution knowing they wouldn't have to open the ecu 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

30th Jun 2013 5:41pm

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1591

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

I don't notice it on mine. It did kangeroo alot when I first had it but update sorted that.

Think I might get my next one mapped really tempted.

30th Jun 2013 5:45pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

big steve wrote:
so why would hey want it opened for something less meaningful and less rewarding

Simple answer......and yes if achievable he would go for it before warranty expiry. Surely the prudent thing to do would be to find a resolution and incorporate it into one of your excellent maps and offer it as an upgrade like the recent new map to those that have the 'older' version that still has the rev hang?.....

K9F wrote:
Ridding the vehicle of the rev hang takes a higher priority for him than the brilliant performance gains I think. I drove his truck and the lack of engine braking and rev hang in comparison to mine is very noticable. I think I could possibly get used to it but as stated he is struggling.
Thanks for the info......

Let's hope Pete can come up with the goods!!!!!!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

30th Jun 2013 5:48pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Perhaps if enough people arnt happy why don't they all approach Landrover to sort it out ?

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

30th Jun 2013 6:48pm

Sonarmender

Member Since: 04 Apr 2013
Location: Guz
Posts: 338

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

So many people want a modern diesel! The rev hang allows the driver to driver the 2.2 like a modern diesel, it does like to rev a little so the rev hang makes gear changes so much smoother, I for one love it, but you can't please everyone all the time.

You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
90XS Hardtop

30th Jun 2013 8:07pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

It's supposed to reduce driveline shunt but if people drove Defenders like a Defender and not a repmobile then there wouldn't be any shunt. Anyway this has all been said before but for my part I've held on to my 2.4 for a bit longer as I found the initial lack of engine braking when you first take your foot off the loud pedal in the 2.2 I've tried annoying, it was bad enough when running light but totally not what you want when towing any weight. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

[Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc]

http://forums.lr4x4.com

I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.

30th Jun 2013 8:30pm

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1591

Sonar I to am happy with mine and tow all the time so agree with you. It's my best land rover yet despite a few teething problems.

P.s not sure about F1 more of a iom TT fan that's a real sport.

30th Jun 2013 10:03pm

Cakey

Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 468

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Must confess the rev hang on my new 13my does not bother me.
I drive it like i stole it , so never has time to hang .
It is a strange thing though when you look for it , as it is there .
I spend more time being irritated how noisy the cabin is

1st Jul 2013 7:24am

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