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bell-auto-services



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Get the car fully fully hot from a road test before doing a VCV learn and pilot correction.

If it fails jump back to my previous post of its a dead VCV and fit a new one Smile Do remember SDD is unlike other tools and does write data in blank areas of the ecu and so have only a limited number of tries beofre the ecu starts to become full.

Turbo arm part number is LR019905

NOTE, after a pcm update the car will want to do a pump learn and pilot correction, if you cant do that now before an update it may cause you problems after also.



Pete
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there is a push in rubber seal round the injector at cam cover level ,they some times leak a very small amount of oil around injector

copper sealing washer don't normally cause any diesel up the top as there is a gap between the hole the injector sits in in the head and the cam cover , if that makes sense

the diesel is more likely to come from a injector pipe or bleed off pipe

be honest I have never seen a sealing washer blow on the ford engine , don't hundreds of injectors and not seen a dodgy washer yet

have you don't the valve on the back of the pump ?


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thanks Pete,
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havent done the vcv valve munch, dyou think its likely worth doing?
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I think its the first thing I would of done
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ill get one then,
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I did ask a mate of mine ( who has worked on the transit engines for years ) about this when you first posted and he said that valve as well

so worth a try
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thanks
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Just looked in my paperwork. I've fitted 14 since last august and spoke to many more who have had to have them done.

Pete.
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Pete, are you saying in your post at the top of the page that every time you recalibrate the VCV you are using memory in the ECU and that therefore there is only a finite number of times this can be done?

I have a strange recurring fault which throws up the "pump learn not carried out" error code quite frequently, which I don't really understand. If I do a relearn and clear the fault, all is good for a month or so but then it comes back, almost as though it's lost its calibration data (which I don't think should be possible). Because of this I have done quite a few relearns and if there is a finite number I wonder what happens when it's reached.
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does it run any different after pump learn done ?

does it put fault light on dash on ?
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It's been a while since I did the really deep testing and data logging of exactly what was written to what part of the ecu , most of it can be seen in the 2007 puma developement link in my signature.

But that said here is a piece of wording I pulled of Topix in the mean time, can't give more info now as I'm only on the iPad and not my work laptop so don't have an info I recorded here.

What I do remember is every time new data was written I could see it in the ecu and every time it was written it was written in a section below the last written part. I also remember having to manually delete some of what was written as I filled the ecu in no time messing around and it would not accept more data until I did this.


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The ECM performs self diagnostic routines and stores fault codes in its memory. These fault codes and diagnostics can be accessed using the Land Rover recommended diagnostic tool. If the ECM is to be replaced, the new ECM is supplied 'blank' and must be configured to the vehicle using the Land Rover recommended diagnostic tool. A 'flash' EEPROM (electrically erasable programmable read only memory) allows the ECM to be externally configured, using the Land Rover recommended diagnostic tool, with market specific or new tune information up to 14 times. If a fifteenth update is required the ECM must be replaced. The current engine tune data can be accessed and read using the Land Rover recommended diagnostic tool.

When a new ECM is fitted, it must also be synchronized to the immobilization control module using the Land Rover recommended diagnostic tool. ECM's cannot be 'swapped' between vehicles.


Pete.


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munch90 wrote:
does it run any different after pump learn done ?

does it put fault light on dash on ?


If the VCV is out of sync before hand yes. Not normally a dash light on for it though.
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Ive ordered one now and will update the thread with the results. hope its good!!
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bell-auto-services wrote:
munch90 wrote:
does it run any different after pump learn done ?

does it put fault light on dash on ?


If the VCV is out of sync before hand yes. Not normally a dash light on for it though.


so if no light on , 99% of people would not know anything about if it needed to be done
what are the symptoms of how the engine runs if not learnt please ?
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