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Had your clutch exchanged?
2007, None
10%
 10%  [25]
2007, 1x
11%
 11%  [28]
2007, 2x
4%
 4%  [12]
2007, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2007, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2007, 5x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, None
10%
 10%  [26]
2008, 1x
5%
 5%  [13]
2008, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2008, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, 4x
0%
 0%  [1]
2008, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2009, None
6%
 6%  [16]
2009, 1x
4%
 4%  [12]
2009, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2009, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2009, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2009, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2010, None
9%
 9%  [23]
2010, 1x
6%
 6%  [17]
2010, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2010, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2010, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2010, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, None
9%
 9%  [23]
2011, 1x
5%
 5%  [14]
2011, 2x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2011, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2011, 5x
0%
 0%  [0]
2012, None
4%
 4%  [10]
2012, 1x
3%
 3%  [8]
2012, 2x
0%
 0%  [2]
2012, 3x
0%
 0%  [1]
2012, 4x
0%
 0%  [0]
2012, 5x
0%
 0%  [2]
Total Votes: 245

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schuee



Member Since: 16 Jul 2012
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 378

United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
schuee wrote:
The Boy wrote:
That might bee handbrake adjustment issue


I have read about the handbrake adjustment, though from cold it runs fine, I travel 20 miles to work and always by the time I arrive it is chattering and klak klak klaking like a good one, seems to clonk more changing in low gears since this happened, or maybe its just me being paranoid Rolling Eyes


Regarding your information on the handbrake ajustment issue, the next time the noise ocurred whilst I was stationary, I only slightly lifted the handbrake lever and the handbrake made a clonk and the noise stopped, so looks like the handbrake which is at fault, will drop into the dealers next time I'm passing.

Cheers
Schuee
Post #163870 22nd Aug 2012 10:03pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
Mine went in today for the new clutch to be fitted. Land Rover has agreed to pay 50% of the cost due to it being out of warranty and as I had reported it before the end but was told nothing was wrong with it. They have told me I will get it back today but knowing the dealers I am not holding my breath. Still as it has been parked up since we got back from Spain I will just be happy to get behind the wheel again.
Post #165574 31st Aug 2012 1:23pm
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dgardel



Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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Italy 
The Boy wrote:
Mine went in today for the new clutch to be fitted. Land Rover has agreed to pay 50% of the cost due to it being out of warranty and as I had reported it before the end but was told nothing was wrong with it. They have told me I will get it back today but knowing the dealers I am not holding my breath. Still as it has been parked up since we got back from Spain I will just be happy to get behind the wheel again.


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Post #165575 31st Aug 2012 1:28pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
£375 inc the vat. Just rang to say it wont' be ready until 5;30 monday so I'll be walking home tonight and no car for the weekend which is a real pain as I have friends over from New York (arrive Saturday)and need it to act as a taxi. Evil or Very Mad
Post #165582 31st Aug 2012 2:21pm
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Post #165584 31st Aug 2012 2:34pm
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dilukabey



Member Since: 17 May 2011
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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
Clutch Problem!
I have the rattle when the engine at idle. But when I depress the clutch, the rattle goes off. Should I replace my clutch immeditely or can i wait till this gets worst.

Also what is the correct model number for the clutch kit as there are many in the market with the confusion with different price range. Question Question Question They swing from 90 GBP to 212 GBP.

LR012199
LR012199G
LR037956
Post #166437 5th Sep 2012 3:45am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
I have had the rattle when coming to a halt/returning to idle for a period of about 6 months or so in which I must have covered 6000KM. Similarly the rattle disappeard when depressing the clutch again. The truck must have been 2 years old then, and the dealer said this is normal...
But thereafter the rattle disappeared altogether, and my clutch/gearbox work as smooth as can be ever since, which is again close to 2 years.
Maybe I am just lucky until now, and I don't say that all will fare the same, so if your truck is still covered by factory warranty you might insist on them changing the clutch. If out of warranty, maybe you also want to carry on as is until the clutch really gives up, or improves consistently like mine. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #166443 5th Sep 2012 5:23am
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astoltz



Member Since: 08 Mar 2011
Location: South Africa
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South Africa 
Re: Clutch Problem!
dilukabey wrote:
I have the rattle when the engine at idle. But when I depress the clutch, the rattle goes off. Should I replace my clutch immeditely or can i wait till this gets worst.

Also what is the correct model number for the clutch kit as there are many in the market with the confusion with different price range. Question Question Question They swing from 90 GBP to 212 GBP.

LR012199
LR012199G
LR037956


Clutch Kit Part Number: LR037956

You will notice that I posted a Service Bulletin earlier in this thread.

on 20 Aug LR released an update to that Service Bulletin:

Technical Bulletin: LTB00477v2 (See below link)
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...0Noise.pdf

In this bulletin the part number is indicated as: LR037956 Clutch Kit



I think the clutch has more that one sympton

1) Clutch Rattle during IDLE - which it seems is caues by a Thrust washer failure in the clutch plate assembly

2) Viabriation when ingenine is switched of

3) During Gear changes one hear a metalic noise / perhaps clunk and gear changes is more difficult.

4) When in low gears ie (1St low range) one can hear a noise souding like the front diff drivetrain noise - Simmilar to this Show youtube video



First off when my clutch was replace beginning of this year all the above was gone. What a pleassure to drive the Puma again!!

When my Puma was in for the above I wrote these above 5 points on a letter for the dealer to check. I did not expect that all of these would be resolved by replacing the clutch.

From early on I had issue #1 and #4. It gomes and goes. Later stages the rattle was gone and then started again.
Since I was new to the Puma I thought #4 was because of the low down torque of the Diesel engine. This also become worse over time where it was not enjoyable going off road

(Since I had my Puma -25000km- when I am in say 3rd (high range) and the revs drop to below 1200rpm number #4's noise/sound could be heard. After clutch replacment I can now in 3rd High, can drop the revs to below 1200rpm without the need to gear down to get rid of this noise.


I saw the old clutch when it was out (kick myself for not taking pictures)
- 1 Spring was almost to the point where it was falling out
- Did not look at the thrust washer bit:(

Regards
Abrie 1997 Land Rover Defender 110 HT 2.8i
(BMW M52)

2009 Land Rover Defender 110 HT 2.4 TDCi(Puma)
Post #166447 5th Sep 2012 6:04am
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nidge n



Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
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Re: Clutch Problem!
astoltz wrote:
dilukabey wrote:
I have the rattle when the engine at idle. But when I depress the clutch, the rattle goes off. Should I replace my clutch immeditely or can i wait till this gets worst.

Also what is the correct model number for the clutch kit as there are many in the market with the confusion with different price range. Question Question Question They swing from 90 GBP to 212 GBP.

LR012199
LR012199G
LR037956


Clutch Kit Part Number: LR037956

You will notice that I posted a Service Bulletin earlier in this thread.

on 20 Aug LR released an update to that Service Bulletin:

Technical Bulletin: LTB00477v2 (See below link)
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...0Noise.pdf

In this bulletin the part number is indicated as: LR037956 Clutch Kit



I think the clutch has more that one sympton

1) Clutch Rattle during IDLE - which it seems is caues by a Thrust washer failure in the clutch plate assembly

2) Viabriation when ingenine is switched of

3) During Gear changes one hear a metalic noise / perhaps clunk and gear changes is more difficult.

4) When in low gears ie (1St low range) one can hear a noise souding like the front diff drivetrain noise - Simmilar to this Show youtube video



First off when my clutch was replace beginning of this year all the above was gone. What a pleassure to drive the Puma again!!

When my Puma was in for the above I wrote these above 5 points on a letter for the dealer to check. I did not expect that all of these would be resolved by replacing the clutch.

From early on I had issue #1 and #4. It gomes and goes. Later stages the rattle was gone and then started again.
Since I was new to the Puma I thought #4 was because of the low down torque of the Diesel engine. This also become worse over time where it was not enjoyable going off road

(Since I had my Puma -25000km- when I am in say 3rd (high range) and the revs drop to below 1200rpm number #4's noise/sound could be heard. After clutch replacment I can now in 3rd High, can drop the revs to below 1200rpm without the need to gear down to get rid of this noise.


I saw the old clutch when it was out (kick myself for not taking pictures)
- 1 Spring was almost to the point where it was falling out
- Did not look at the thrust washer bit:(

Regards
Abrie


This is really useful information Abrie, thanks. Its interesting that they allow another hour for the replacement of a 2.2
Post #166460 5th Sep 2012 7:48am
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Marius



Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
This might be a stupid question.

How do I see if my VIN is one of those listed in the affected vehicle range?
Post #166511 5th Sep 2012 12:52pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Marius wrote:
How do I see if my VIN is one of those listed in the affected vehicle range?


the bulletin affects the VIN range: 7A732615 - CA421360 --
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Skipper123



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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Was replaced just before i bought it, no problems yet however i seem to get some snatch on gear change?? Very Happy
Post #166590 5th Sep 2012 7:35pm
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biffabacon67



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Second service (24000 miles) I highlighted a few issues with corrosion and clunky gearbox. Was told I needed a new gearbox and a new clutch. Both replaced, but in the process of replacing these they managed to scratch the drivers side wing and put 10-12 smallish (10p size) dents in the top of the same wing, probably from banging down spanners/sockets! Not good, now booked into the bodyshop for a respray next week, for this and to respray windscreen surround, upper bulkhead, lower front grille and the two lumpy things attached to the bulkhead where the windscreen hinges used to be.
Build quality is totally pants!!! But I still love it!!!
Still need to sort out the corrosion on the side steps, hinge bolts, mirror arms and various rivets.
Post #166824 6th Sep 2012 10:11pm
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Marius



Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
Naks wrote:
Marius wrote:
How do I see if my VIN is one of those listed in the affected vehicle range?


the bulletin affects the VIN range: 7A732615 - CA421360


I'm not familiar how the range works. My'n is (SALLDHMT7BA82xxxx)


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Post #166840 7th Sep 2012 6:46am
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superspoons



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England 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Marius wrote:
Naks wrote:
Marius wrote:
How do I see if my VIN is one of those listed in the affected vehicle range?


the bulletin affects the VIN range: 7A732615 - CA421360


I'm not familiar how the range works. My'n is (SALLDHMT7BA820744)


Same here...my chassis is SALLDHMS78A75xxxx

Confused Cheers,
Superspoons
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