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superspoons



Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
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England 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Bang, crash, wallop.....
Hi all,

Been meaning to ask this on here to see if anyone else has the same....

My 110, whenever I go over pot hole/speed bump etc makes a really noticable 'rattle' from somewhere underneath at the rear. It's a bit like a tin tray being dropped...

I've had a 110 300tdi before and didnt have such a noise. I'm planning on getting under there asap to have a look around but if anyone can shed some light on what it could be, it would be appreciated. Cheers,
Superspoons
Post #160468 7th Aug 2012 10:42am
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nicks



Member Since: 21 Aug 2008
Location: south coast
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Alaska White
Its the rear brake pads rattling in the calipers. I'm on my second puma now, the first one did it - dealers changed pads and calipers - still the same, in the end they welded a small blob on to the back of the pads and that stopped it -
3 years later another new 110 and the pads are rattling again - dealers had it in twice to cure it - each time they say its been fixed, but off course they haven't cured it.

You can tell by going over the same bump with the brake lightly pressed - no rattle.

every 110 puma i see makes the same rattle.
Post #160489 7th Aug 2012 12:19pm
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Happyoldgit



Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Yep brake pads, not only Puma's but had the same rattle on the last TD5 I had a few years ago too. Steve.
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Post #160491 7th Aug 2012 12:31pm
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familymad



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You guys have just answered a big question of mine. I thought the back end was starting to fall off. We have 16 speed bumps to leave our road and I take them at pace..... Laughing but the rattling was starting to worry esp after the steering damper fell off last month!! 1951 80" S1 2.0
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Post #160493 7th Aug 2012 12:33pm
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x-isle



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Wow! Was gonna ask the same question as mine has started to rattle a little. Coincides with the fact that it's got new brake pads fitted. Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
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Post #160502 7th Aug 2012 12:53pm
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superspoons



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England 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Excellent. I'll have a look... I fiited new pads to it only 1500 miles ago though and I'm sure I fitted anti rattle clips etc.

So would you expect this to be covered by the warranty I got from the LR dealer I bought it from ? Whistle Cheers,
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I had a set of pads once, in the past, and there were long springs that fitted around the retaining pins, so they "pushed" the pads apart. I think this was on the front of my 90.

wonder if anything like that might help... anything to take up the free-play of the pad.
Post #160522 7th Aug 2012 2:28pm
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Happyoldgit



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
The last time I mentioned it was on my last Puma and was told LR were looking into it but AFAIK the design remains the same as it has done for years. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
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Post #160523 7th Aug 2012 2:29pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Mine does it too. The real question I have about this is if this rattle is totally innocent, so we can neglect it, or is it necessary to do something about it? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Happyoldgit



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
I only notice it with the window open when driving over bumps somewhere where the sound can be reflected, like next to a building. Never caused any actual braking issues and hard to see that it would unless the caliper or pad backing became excessively worn. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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Post #160574 7th Aug 2012 4:50pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
my last 110 did it on the front, current one doesnt though! both Pumas. Cheers

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90 2010 Hardtop
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Post #160599 7th Aug 2012 6:29pm
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skoller



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My Puma's rear brakes rattled too. Solved the problem by fitting another spring to the retaining pins between the pin head and the caliper body . This added greater tension against the pin because thats what was rattling.
Post #160723 8th Aug 2012 9:06am
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Landyphil



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 USW Stornoway Grey
All of my Defenders seem to do this if the backs of the pads are dry. I'm always generous with the copper slip both on the pins and on the back of the pads which helps it stick to the piston and retract. 90XS Tdci John Eales
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Bearcat



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Ireland 
Thanks for the heads up...?.same rattle here. I'm putting spacers on mine next week and I'll get my mechanic to have a look. Good gen! Current...07 90 Puma commercial
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Post #161658 13th Aug 2012 4:26pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
wow, spot on. SWAMBO kept saying she hears a rattle similar to a shopping trolley rattle.

Finally I heard it this weekend while we were on a gravel road.

Going in for an oil change on Werdnesday, will ask the indie to check the rear brake pads. Thumbs Up --
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