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| nicks Member Since: 21 Aug 2008 Location: south coast Posts: 469   
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Its the rear brake pads rattling in the calipers. I'm on my second puma now, the first one did it - dealers changed pads and calipers - still the same, in the end they welded a small blob on to the back of the pads and that stopped it -
3 years later another new 110 and the pads are rattling again - dealers had it in twice to cure it - each time they say its been fixed, but off course they haven't cured it. You can tell by going over the same bump with the brake lightly pressed - no rattle. every 110 puma i see makes the same rattle. |
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7th Aug 2012 12:19pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Yep brake pads, not only Puma's but had the same rattle on the last TD5 I had a few years ago too. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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7th Aug 2012 12:31pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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You guys have just answered a big question of mine. I thought the back end was starting to fall off. We have 16 speed bumps to leave our road and I take them at pace.....
 but the rattling was starting to worry esp after the steering damper fell off last month!! 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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7th Aug 2012 12:33pm |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327  
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Wow! Was gonna ask the same question as mine has started to rattle a little. Coincides with the fact that it's got new brake pads fitted. Craig Rogers
2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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7th Aug 2012 12:53pm |
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| superspoons Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: Herts Posts: 314  
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Excellent. I'll have a look... I fiited new pads to it only 1500 miles ago though and I'm sure I fitted anti rattle clips etc.
So would you expect this to be covered by the warranty I got from the LR dealer I bought it from ?  Cheers,
Superspoons |
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7th Aug 2012 2:00pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 
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I had a set of pads once, in the past, and there were long springs that fitted around the retaining pins, so they "pushed" the pads apart. I think this was on the front of my 90.
wonder if anything like that might help... anything to take up the free-play of the pad. |
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7th Aug 2012 2:28pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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The last time I mentioned it was on my last Puma and was told LR were looking into it but AFAIK the design remains the same as it has done for years. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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7th Aug 2012 2:29pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Mine does it too. The real question I have about this is if this rattle is totally innocent, so we can neglect it, or is it necessary to do something about it? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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7th Aug 2012 4:43pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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I only notice it with the window open when driving over bumps somewhere where the sound can be reflected, like next to a building. Never caused any actual braking issues and hard to see that it would unless the caliper or pad backing became excessively worn. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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7th Aug 2012 4:50pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8026 
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my last 110 did it on the front, current one doesnt though! both Pumas. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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7th Aug 2012 6:29pm |
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| skoller Member Since: 27 Oct 2011 Location: australia Posts: 7 |
My Puma's rear brakes rattled too. Solved the problem by fitting another spring to the retaining pins between the pin head and the caliper body . This added greater tension against the pin because thats what was rattling.
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8th Aug 2012 9:06am |
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| Landyphil Member Since: 23 Jul 2012 Location: Lake District Posts: 87
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All of my Defenders seem to do this if the backs of the pads are dry. I'm always generous with the copper slip both on the pins and on the back of the pads which helps it stick to the piston and retract. 90XS Tdci John Eales
110 CSW G4 Edition 88" Series 3 Racer |
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8th Aug 2012 6:41pm |
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| Bearcat Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 57 
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Thanks for the heads up...?.same rattle here. I'm putting spacers on mine next week and I'll get my mechanic to have a look. Good gen! Current...07 90 Puma commercial
Porsche 930 1988 (laid up) Previous Td5 90 & V8 90 |
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13th Aug 2012 4:26pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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wow, spot on. SWAMBO kept saying she hears a rattle similar to a shopping trolley rattle.
Finally I heard it this weekend while we were on a gravel road. Going in for an oil change on Werdnesday, will ask the indie to check the rear brake pads.  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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13th Aug 2012 8:30pm |
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