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BuckBlu110



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Definitely will be wanting one of the billet ones as soon as they’re ready!

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Its getting there... making a few changes to the prototype.


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Porny wrote:
Its getting there... making a few changes to the prototype.

Hi Ian, looking at your prototype and it's components it appears to follow the same fundamental design of the LR one, albeit with far superior components, machining and assembly. So I’m assuming you have concluded that the original design is good, however it’s implementation is poor. Is this the case or have you spotted a flaw in the original design and corrected it ?

Ps. I suspect that the round sealing rings are a challenge to get right and perform well over a long period of time.

Fully understand if you can’t provide too many details, as it’s your your intellectual property and likely commercially sensitive, but anything you are happy to share would be appreciated.

Noting I’m very interested in purchasing one ( at a reasonable price Very Happy ) if it has corrected the flaws in the original heater valve.
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These images are on the design and development facebook page.

Looks like a very high quality version of the origional.
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Truly a thing of beauty. I can’t wait for them to be ready. WARNING.
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Post #1033415 30th Apr 2024 4:46pm
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Ianh



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Thanks for posting the pics Mata, those are the ones I looked at a few months ago and it’s really useful having them posted here Thumbs Up

Three issues seem to plague the original valve.

1. It can start to leak at the main body seam.
2. In some instances the Bowden cable does not fully push the valve leaver back, allowing hot coolant to continue to flow to the heater matrix even when set to fully cold by the heater control knob.
3. In some instances even with the valve leaver fully pushed back and the heater control knob on fully cold the valve internals still let hot coolant flow to the heater matrix.

I Agee with Zed, it does look a thing of beauty, as does everything I’ve seen from Design and development engineering, and IRB’s bespoke components such as their output shaft. ( I’m likely to purchase and fit an IRB output shaft soon)

Hence I’m keen on IRB ( ian, Porny on here) providing as much insight as he feels appropriate on how the 3 points I highlighted above ( perhaps more I’m unaware of ) are addressed by his collaboration with D&DE on this solution.
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radial



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Nudge and bump to this thread.
Anyone have a bead on the new valves for sale yet?
I am not putting any more plastic fantastic on mine!
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Ianh



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Ian of IRB developments ( member porny on here) has them for sale on his integrated 316 site. See https://www.integrated316.com/store/p/land...trol-valve

£306 inc vat plus £6 postage... I wonder if a big group buy could facilitate a decent discount.
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radial wrote:
Nudge and bump to this thread.
Anyone have a bead on the new valves for sale yet?
I am not putting any more plastic fantastic on mine!


They are tantalising close to be being finished. There has been a few delays in production, but virtually all parts are back from anodising now ready for assembly. IRB
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radial



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Porny wrote:
radial wrote:
Nudge and bump to this thread.
Anyone have a bead on the new valves for sale yet?
I am not putting any more plastic fantastic on mine!


They are tantalising close to be being finished. There has been a few delays in production, but virtually all parts are back from anodising now ready for assembly.


Super. Standing by.

But now I also want to know about this ... "and the first 2.4 Puma through both the 200bhp and 550Nm barriers. " tell me more
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jbcollier



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I ordered a stock valve from Britpart and it was junk. So I researched other cars that used the same valve and ordered a factory replacement that way. Can’t remember if it was from Fiat or Citroen. Much cheaper than LR, no metal bracket, and it works great. YMMV
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