 | Home > Puma (Tdci) > Does anyone use a Radiator Muff during Winter? |
 
|
|
|
| tolley Member Since: 07 Nov 2011 Location: gloucester Posts: 1115   
|
let us know how you get on with nit fitting etc. might get one ,bit cold today |
||
14th Dec 2011 9:10am |
|
| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
|
Ordered mine from Paddock, will let you all know how I get on. Should have a wing snow cover soon too. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
||
|
16th Dec 2011 7:07pm |
|
| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
|
Mine is just fixed with black cable ties - very smart and works a treat
 Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
||
|
16th Dec 2011 7:12pm |
|
| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935  
|
Well, having started this topic I have now fitted a radiator Muff purchased from Paddocks. I used spring loaded cavity wall fittings which would work well on non-puma radiators but with the slatted design on the puma standard grill you had to tighten the fittings a fair bit, thus pulling the fabric into the grill opening. Very un-satisfactory an if you pushed the fabric/fitting in then it would lose its grip on the radiator slat.
So I used 2 lengths of aluminium strip. about 1" wide, covered in black tape for aesthetics only with 2 holes in each near the ends and pushed the bolts of the fittings through the strip and fabric then fitting the spring loaded fitting and now it fits well and needs a screwdriver to remove it.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Have just completed a 600+ mile round trip to Norfolk from S.Wales with the radiator muff on and closed. Quick warm up. Water Temp, according to Scangauge, stayed between 88 to 90c normal on my 90XS. Fuel consumption 10.6L / 100Km and the return trip was 271 m in 4 1/2 hrs, virtually all on motorway and dual carriageway at 70+ . So very happy with the result. Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  LANDYWATCH
Neighbourhood Watch for Land Rover Owners http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 3:11pm |
|
| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
|
I thought the Paddock one comes with spring fastners??? 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 3:35pm |
|
| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
|
Very smart
Also good to get the feedback about the water temp on the long trip. I am a lot more confident to leave mine closed now 
Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 4:44pm |
|
| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677 
|
Will Scanguage work from a TD5 OBD?
|
||
|
17th Dec 2011 5:07pm |
|
| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
|
I've restored a few pre war cars in my time and one or two of them came with really nice quilted canvas rad muffs that fitted to the grilles by turn-buckles and had opening flaps that could be secured back with lift the dot fasteners. I've had others that had radiator blinds that worked just like a window roller blind which meant that pulling a cord on the dash would pull the blind over the front of the rad a corresponding amount - something like that wouldn't be too hard to fabricate for a Defender. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 5:34pm |
|
| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935
|
These are the fittings supplied with the Paddock Radiator Muff.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M4-X-90-X-50-SPR..._500wt_922 LANDYWATCH
Neighbourhood Watch for Land Rover Owners http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 5:42pm |
|
| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
|
Ahhh, very much like what my old series III had then - I'm sure I can make them work well enough. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
||
|
17th Dec 2011 6:56pm |
|
| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4663 
|
Was there not a warning not to block airflow to the intercooler on earlier engines? I used to cover the grill on the 200 tdi but always left the intercooler uncovered. Would it not also apply to the Puma or does it not matter if the airflow to the intercooler is blocked? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
||
|
18th Dec 2011 1:00am |
|
| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
|
At least on mine, the bottom of the "main muff" stops well above the intercooler. When it folds down it fixes to pop studs so it doesn't go any further. Other designs fold/roll up, so no problem there either
 Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
||
|
18th Dec 2011 8:12am |
|
| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459 
|
I have been following this thread with great interest and as yesterday we darted down to Berkshire to deliver some Christmas presents. When we got back the mpg was 26.3 I was expecting a bit more (travelling at 60-65 mph) and so I wondered if putting one of these muffs on might help? As I don’t have one just hanging around I got some cardboard and reinforced the edges with duct tape with plastic on the front and baking foil on the back. I cable tied it to the back of the grill and went out for a test. It seemed to warm up quicker and the gauge remained at normal once it was up to temp but I thought I noticed a drop in performance. This I would assumed is because I blanked the inter cooler also, so when I got back I removed it and dropped it in front of the radiator and it has seemed to do the trick as performance is concerned. It only covers ¾ of the rad leaving the top ¼ free. I won’t know if the mpg will go up until Tuesday when I do my yearly trip up and down the country to visit all my best customers and drop some hampers off for them. I shall of course report back here.
|
||
|
18th Dec 2011 1:58pm |
|
| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935
|
With the air-con grill there is quit a gap at the bottom that is not covered by the Radiator muff. I certainly haven't noticed any decrease in power - can still take out X5's and Disco 3's on the Culverhouse Cross hill in Cardiff in 5th gear.
 LANDYWATCH
Neighbourhood Watch for Land Rover Owners http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php |
||
|
18th Dec 2011 4:46pm |
|
|
|
| All times are GMT |
< Previous Topic | Next Topic > |
Posting Rules
|
Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
