LandRoverAnorak wrote:

Here are a couple of pics in the daylight:


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It made a very noticeable difference to the warm-up time this morning, with the needle moving off the bottom of the guage in about a quarter of a mile. Haven't done a long enough run to see if it needs to be left cracked open slightly yet.

I quite like the look of those and nearly bought one but the big eyelets put me off a bit. Still, if it does the job then  Steve.
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Zagato wrote:

I would probably go Exmoor Trim if I needed one...fixings can always be sorted easily!

I doubt it without major surgery, to be honest. I bought one and sent it back as I thought it was so poor. Firstly, it clips around the top corners of the grill and, in order to get it tight enough to not fall off, it distorts the grill.


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Secondly, the clips are designed to hook under the lower grill slats with the material of the muff trapped underneath. I found this arrangement to be really hit and miss and I was worried that it would just fall off.


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Finally, it's incredibly easy to remove, which makes it very nickable

For best part of £50, it's a less than ideal solution.

As far as this new one goes, I've suggested to the vendor that he replace the eyelets with a velcro sealed slit to give access to the fixing, so it's possible that he'll change the design. Darren

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SteveS wrote:

Interestingly I used my Exmoor rad muff when I went to Arctic Norway/Finland last February in the TDCi. As an experiment I removed the muff at -40C temps and it made NO differnece to the temp guage reading - ie middle. The journeys were long/constant speed rather than stop/start.

To stop it being easily nicked and to make the lower edge sit nicely I put two tie wraps around the material to hold it taught to the grille.

This winter I will not bother to use it - it will be used more likely as a wading blanket......except last time I went over Salisbury I forgot to fit it and got a rad full of mud

ZeDefender wrote:

Similar here - I couldn't tell last winter if it made any difference and I read so much theory on why it would or wouldn't work that it just goes on to keep the snow out. Okay - and it looks cool too

However... what I can say for sure, is that driving on the motorway with the muff even 1/2 done up is a bad idea - it choked the intercooler and killed the power really badly, even at -10 (I realised this Summer how inadequate the standard intercooler is on the motorway even in warm weather). I won't make that mistake again.

p.s. plus a certain respected tuner suggested that muffs might not be the best idea for modern intercooled engines...

T1G UP wrote:

SteveS wrote:

Interestingly I used my Exmoor rad muff when I went to Arctic Norway/Finland last February in the TDCi. As an experiment I removed the muff at -40C temps and it made NO differnece to the temp guage reading - ie middle. The journeys were long/constant speed rather than stop/start.

To stop it being easily nicked and to make the lower edge sit nicely I put two tie wraps around the material to hold it taught to the grille.

This winter I will not bother to use it - it will be used more likely as a wading blanket......except last time I went over Salisbury I forgot to fit it and got a rad full of mud

i can't see the engine getting up to stat opening temps at -40! still put it on though as it couls stop the rad from getting blocked with ice etc?

Just talking from experience - i too doubt that the stat opened, or if it did then only slightly

Yes from the point of view of snow I would put probably have put it back on. However, with it being so cold it would hardly have mattered.....iced up disk brakes after an overnight stop were pretty exciting though