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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94  
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I hope I may have cracked it.
PROPOSED SOLUTION On each bonnet hinge leave two Posi M6 X 20mm bolts in place as they are, the third one drill it out right through the dead block on the inside, re tap it and put a locking nut on the inside of the new lengthened Posi bolt, yes the hole would be marginally bigger but that would let the bolt go through the dead block on the inside and allow the locking nut to hold the bonnet on the hinge. Nothing would look any different then and they would be able to get to it, without a lot more hassle and time of course  |
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19th Sep 2011 4:39pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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every time I see an old defender with a post 07 bonnet I wonder where it came from!!
I cant believe one of our suppliers has not come up with a solution, I thought a rod bolted to the bonnet that drops down past a gap in the engine bay and then drops through a hole with a lock would work well but have not had chance to look if there is a suitable spot. Or alternatively some proper hinges that look like the originals but dont have the silly lift out idea, I wanted to fit struts but found these just push the bonnet forward in the hinges so it misses the latch and a bolt cutter would make quick work of them any way, come on Nak etc etc give us a solution. ps I note you can now get fiberglass puma bonnets much cheaper than steel ones if mine goes a walk I think thats the route Id go, perhaps with a matt black or carbon wrap. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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19th Sep 2011 4:50pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945
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I dont understand what you mean the bonnet lifts off????? |
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19th Sep 2011 4:58pm |
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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94
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Spoke to Land Rover this afternoon as I picked my Puma up, and they said there isn't a bonnet theft problem that they know about!!!!
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19th Sep 2011 4:59pm |
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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94
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Brain going twice as quick as my fingers.
Make an alloy dead block the same shape as the triangle under the bonnet to hold all three screws with one larger and tapped to a different thread using a longer bolt with locking nut, that is what I meant by a dead block. |
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19th Sep 2011 5:03pm |
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| IanW Member Since: 12 Jun 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 172 
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Gil9713 - I note it's a suggestion, and a good one, but if you do it some pics would be of great interest. As others have said, suppliers who read this forum must surely be aware of the need for extra security on these bonnets, and need to use some engineering ingenuity to solve the problem. Ian One wife - livid
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19th Sep 2011 5:05pm |
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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94
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Ian,
I'll make a couple of dead blocks up and fit them and then place all the Pics/components and sizes up on here. I have a couple of slack days in the workshop. I am mindful of the costs so it will be a cheap but highly effective response to the problem.....hopefully, and design a sticker to go on the outside to save them causing unnecessary damage to find out they can't pinch it Gil |
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19th Sep 2011 5:10pm |
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| Sockpuppet Member Since: 17 Sep 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 479
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I reckon one of these would be the best idea.
http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-gate-l...95018.html 
Have a thin wire going from it through the firewall to where the bonnet release is. Pull on both and bonnet lifts. Have this mounted on the large lifting point on top of the engine at the back and you wouldn't even me able to get a hand in to release it unless you're in the cab. If you made up a bracket and used the same sort of wire that bicycle brakes use then you could make it easy the route the cable and release it. Have a receiver quite easily drilled into the hole on the hood. |
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19th Sep 2011 5:26pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Quite often the doors and seats get knicked as well so I don't think getting into the cab is much of an issue for these scrotes! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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19th Sep 2011 6:02pm |
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| jlerra Member Since: 10 Jul 2009 Location: Gibraltar/London Posts: 149  
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Lots of ideas bouncing around bonnet theft of TDCi's.
The only worthwhile solution is redesigned secure bonnet brackets - as other vehicles don't have a problem! Hope the advertisers in Defender 2.net will acknowledge the problem and go to work on a replacement without monumental changes to the design. I am sure there would be substantial interest among owners for such development. Jlerra JLS 'El Pepe Flamenco' |
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19th Sep 2011 9:21pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382 
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Of course there isn't a bonnet theft problem from Landrover's perspective - who do you think sells all the replacement bonnets? Not a problem for the company. |
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20th Sep 2011 8:31am |
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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94
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The trouble is here, that they have to say that I suppose, because they know it would need tackling properly from their design perspective.
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20th Sep 2011 8:34am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382
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Looking at the hinges, it would be a fairly simple matter to fit two shaped stainless blocks to the bulkhead immediately above the hinges which would render it impossible to lift the bonnet off, at least without completely deforming the (rather flimsy looking) fixed hinge on the bulkhead. The blocks could be secured inside the vehicle, which would necessitate the removal of the dash, thus making removal of the bonnet entirely possible albeit not quick should legitimate removal be required.
If the blocks were shaped appropriately, they could both limit the upward movement of the bonnet and completely close off the removal gap in the fixed hinge. Powder coat them black and they would look smart too. Simples! With a CNC mill it should be possible to machine a suitable block for pennies. Shame I don't have a CNC mill. |
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20th Sep 2011 8:39am |
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| Gil9713 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Colchester Posts: 94
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Agree with that. Its similar to my suggestion on the underside, a shaped piece of alloy (dead block)on both sides
as mentioned above only difference if people wanted to leave it as it is and just add the block would be a different M6 headed and threaded say 25-30mm bolt with a locking screw on the underside. It would buy you time thats all, but enough time to get out of your PJ's  |
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20th Sep 2011 8:44am |
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