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kingofthesparks



Member Since: 06 Jan 2011
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White
look on the positive side , a disco for defender money, Whistle
Post #87053 1st Sep 2011 4:39pm
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pom



Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
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i can just see farmer giles with a couple of sheep in the back of one then climbing into the cab with his $hitty wellies!

Looks to me like dumb spice had some input as she did with the gaylander3/evoque.

Pom
Post #87055 1st Sep 2011 4:48pm
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AndrewS



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Location: Hereford
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
kingofthesparks wrote:
look on the positive side , a disco for defender money, Whistle


Think how much the current models will go up in value, Mr woolly underpants will pay a premium for them 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #87056 1st Sep 2011 4:49pm
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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
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Finland 
Why all the comments about how Defenders will be going up in value? How is this good? You mean you'd seriously want to part with your Defender after the DC100 comes out — probably never to be able to own a real Landy ever again?
Post #87058 1st Sep 2011 4:54pm
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Landie Boy



Member Since: 14 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
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Setok wrote:
I think the most important question here is: why bring this out? It's basically a Disco, with a few small visual tweaks. Based on the reporting I've been reading it will also have terrain response and probably a heap of other gadgets to go wrong and break down.

So they're bringing out a Disco and calling it a Defender. Yay. Not impressed.


At one point (i'm not sure if its still going ahead) the Disco was going to be dropped in 2015 because of electronic problems and then the Defender would replace it with the new model.

Jack
Post #87059 1st Sep 2011 5:04pm
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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
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Finland 
I believe the Disco was also originally supposed to replace the Defender, but that didn't work out as buyers still wanted the Defender, so the Disco became less of a utility vehicle after all. There's probably a lesson here.
Post #87062 1st Sep 2011 5:15pm
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bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I must be getting old (or older) but the Double Cab looks half decent in the picture on Pistonheads.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/default.asp?storyId=24243

Still saving for a 90 from the last production run of the current Defender though Thumbs Up

Bob
Post #87063 1st Sep 2011 5:16pm
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Setok



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Actually, now that I think about it, if this was called a Discovery, the response would likely be much less negative (accounting for the fact there will always be negativity with change). The fact that this is being made into a replacement for the Defender just feels completely wrong. The design philosophy (and presumably the internals) is just totally opposite to what made the Defender great.
Post #87064 1st Sep 2011 5:18pm
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daviec1



Member Since: 30 Nov 2010
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Bonatti Grey
Look, the brain trust at Land Rover COULD have just taken the existing Defender and fixed it.

i.e. brought into line with all required legislations, and fixed the lovely "special features" we all put up with.

Yes, that would mean a new chassis - but design it to accept after market accessories. Have the rear crossmember exposed & pre-drilled for all the extra stuff we enjoy.

Make it so that water stays out!!

Get the lights slightly brighter than candles

Fix the driving position & the heavy clutch

Make the doors slightly thicker than paper.

But keep the "feel" of the existing Defender.

What they seem to have come up with is a cheap Disco.

Now as the Disco came in as a cheap RR, and then climbed ever upwards in price, and the gaylander was brought in for the non wellie boot mob & the school run, the new Evoque sort of clobbers the Disco, any new Defender HAS to stand alone, or it is just overlapping in style & price, much of the rest of the LR / RR range. 2001 TD5 110 DCPU in Bonatti Grey
Post #87070 1st Sep 2011 5:41pm
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Fox



Member Since: 26 Aug 2010
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My wife thought this was the new facelifted version of her Yeti,,, so that's one sale they'd make. Thumbs Up
Not sure it's the target audience though.
Post #87089 1st Sep 2011 7:15pm
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mikelike



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The DC100 has lost the high driving position and short bonnet of the defender, has a car like view out , one of the trademarks of the defender . How large will the tray be , mini size ??????
Post #87095 1st Sep 2011 7:38pm
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landydubai



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United Arab Emirates 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
 LandyDubai
Keep the shiny side up!

09 110 XS BAS remap
09 90 pick up BAS remap
08 D3 V8 G4 Spec
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G55 2003
Ford Raptor 2010 - new toy!
Post #87097 1st Sep 2011 7:43pm
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YORKSHIRELAD



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Setok wrote:
I think the most important question here is: why bring this out? It's basically a Disco, with a few small visual tweaks. Based on the reporting I've been reading it will also have terrain response and probably a heap of other gadgets to go wrong and break down.

So they're bringing out a Disco and calling it a Defender. Yay. Not impressed.


I totally agree my friend. The current model is the only model in the range with any distinction from the other LR motors, and if it had to fall in line with the rest of the range, I would rarther them retire the Defender than start Censored about with stupid designs. There will never be another Defender. I understand a need for a big selling Utility but don't call it a a replacement for the Defender. The age old blood line is cut. [ I have been drinking} 1963 Series 2A truck cab
2008 110 SW
Post #87102 1st Sep 2011 8:32pm
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cobs



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Cairns Blue
Born in Lode Lane by Roger Crathorne
The above (excellent) book by Roger Crathorne was first published in 2008. There are a couple of pages in which he describes his vision for a new Defender which are pretty much spot on in my opinion. On the styling front though it doesn't appear as if Land Rover have listened to him. If you want to read them (get in quick before Martin has to delete them for breach of copyright!) have a look in My Gallery under the album New Defender - Born in Lode Lane.

If you need to ask who Roger Crathorne is then I suggest you buy the book!
Post #87106 1st Sep 2011 8:48pm
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DG



Member Since: 10 Jun 2007
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United Kingdom 
Let the record show my forecast:

A year after production of the final incarnation of the DC100 there will be a whole new band of LR followers exulting the joys of the fantastic, go anywhere, practical and comfortable defender replacement. With them there will be many old Defender and LR supporters who might have been sceptical but will have been converted ......and for them the old defender will be long forgotten.

...the remainder of the die hard Defender types will be scratching their beards and pulling their woolly underpants out of the crack of their hairy ass saying ..." it's crap Rolling Eyes ..it ain't like the old days Rolling Eyes ...there's too many electric's Rolling Eyes ..... oh look it's stuck Rolling Eyes ...the old defender would never have done that Rolling Eyes " .........In truth, nobody else, including LR, will give a flying feck what they think .


Anyone want to place their bets ? Whistle Wink Interloper from disco3


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Post #87107 1st Sep 2011 9:21pm
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