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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5841   
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Well, given the nature of the failure (hard to engage gears but no loud bangs, nothing catastrophic and able to creep to my destination after previously travelling 230km and at speeds of up to 120kmh), I thought my latch was giving up. Seems it was the Outputs shaft. For those who remember, this failed in Spain and I was obliged to have a new one fitted by LR Palma. As you can see, not a drop of grease and so it was only a matter of time before it failed. In numbers, 5 years and 35k miles. However, if you factor in Covid, I’ve driven 20% of what I normally would over the past 18mths, so in real terms (and with my usual mileage) this would probably have failed last summer. So four years. I do a lot of hills, quite a bit of towing, carrying weight etc, but this is pathetic. Good news is that thanks to a purchase from Daz110 and some super advice from DeeEss, it’s now been upgraded to an Ashcroft shaft and is looking mint. I also swapped the clutch, which whilst not dead, was looking thin on the two faces and one spring had a gentle wobble. Clutchfix clutch now popped in. So, fingers crossed, I won’t be reporting back here anytime soon.
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22nd Nov 2021 7:45am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5841
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Good question Dave, as they only gave me the shaft when I left Palma. Similarly, I think they might have only changed the clutch plate and not the cover as well. This despite my asking for both to be done properly (and as advised on here and by LR) and to provide photos of each stage undertaken but obviously never supplied. Ho hum. I now know what’s been done and now feel much better for it.
As for the award, of all those I’d ever want to get ‘smoothest cup’ is not one of them  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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23rd Nov 2021 7:24am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431  
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2nd Dec 2021 11:53am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431
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2nd Dec 2021 11:53am |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
its a conundrum wrapped up in an enigma ...... the variability must be down to movement and misalignment and i think the lubrication might help but lack of it is a red herring as the root cause.Im starting to wonder if drilling and tapping two holes at opposite poles through the female and male part of the shaft and bolting them together might be a cheap way of reducing movement and wear of the splines? |
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2nd Dec 2021 12:28pm |
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| Iktank Member Since: 08 Nov 2014 Location: Porthcawl Posts: 237  
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1, vehicle year of manufacture - 2014
2, engine type 2.4 or 2.2, - 2.2 3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N) - N 4, vehicle mileage at first shaft failure, or current mileage on the original shaft if still running - Shaft not failed, but changed due to severe wear on examination while fixing Oil leak to transfer box at 45760 miles 5, Has an Ashcroft modified part has been fitted? (Y/N) - Y 6, vehicle mileage at the second failure, or mileage if still running. Not applicable |
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13th Dec 2021 4:17pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2217 
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Anyone know what the warranty time or mileage is on an Ashcroft kit.?
I have an Ashcroft kit fitted and just lost all drive AGAIN for the 5th time on the A9. 😡😡 |
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2nd Jan 2022 12:55pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3645  
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I think there is 12 months on Ashcroft parts but if anyone but one of their approved fitters fitted it any failure could be down to poor fitment.
I do have the Ashcroft part fitted by IRB all going well so far with no leaks and no clunks DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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2nd Jan 2022 1:12pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308  
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has the ashcroft failed or the adapter shaft.
I suspect the warranty will be for the kit and not the shaft.  Last edited by Caterham on 2nd Jan 2022 3:16pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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2nd Jan 2022 1:43pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431
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Please share a picture of the parts when possible. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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2nd Jan 2022 3:12pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2217
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2nd Jan 2022 5:05pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3431  
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I have the Ashcroft kit, and I believe it has already doubled the distance that was achievable with the genuine shaft... although to be fair, I replaced the female part because the splines that mate with the gearbox mainshaft started to wear, not the usual splines - I was lucky, caught in time due to an oil leak from improper fitting of the kit. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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2nd Jan 2022 6:01pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2217
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23,000, 3yrs on Ashcroft and yes, I’ll be on the fone to Ashcroft in the morning.
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2nd Jan 2022 6:26pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431
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Hard to believe the Ashcroft kit has failed in such a short mileage. Puma 110" SW
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2nd Jan 2022 6:29pm |
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