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| Bushpig Member Since: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Risca, Wales Posts: 236   
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1, 2012
2, 2.2 3, Y 4, 107 000 kms Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams 2012 2.2 Puma |
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13th Jul 2018 7:26am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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1, 2008
2, 2.4 3, Y 4, 70,000mi  Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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13th Jul 2018 11:24am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611  
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1. 2014
2. 2.2 3. Y 4. 23,000 miles  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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13th Jul 2018 11:33am |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105  
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1. 2010
2. 2.4 3. N 4. Shaft replaced at 91,000km's. It didnt fail, but was very close to looking at the wear on the splines. Replaced with Ashcroft kit |
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13th Jul 2018 11:07pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3785 
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2013
2.2 yes 45000klms.....very respectfully driven (which obviously makes no difference to this issue) The only "warning" we received was that about 3-4 klms before we lost all drive, we heard a loud "click" from somewhere, which we thought we'd check out when we got home, but we never got there. The "click" was obviously one or more of the splines breaking away, prior to total failure a few klms later. Fitting the new shaft never made any noticeable difference to driveline slack that we had before failure. Pickles. |
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13th Jul 2018 11:30pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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2015 (MY16)
2.2 Original 23,000 Well done DSC-off |
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14th Jul 2018 9:51am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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1. 2013
2. 2.2 3. Y 4. 39K It's clunky though, so will be changed in the not too distant future. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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14th Jul 2018 6:30pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216 
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1. 2007
2, 2.4 3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? Yes 4, vehicle milage at first shaft failure, or current milage on the original shaft if still running. 82,000 on original shaft. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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14th Jul 2018 7:06pm |
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| toetankh Member Since: 05 Aug 2015 Location: Papendrecht Posts: 22  
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1, 2007 (vehicle year of manufacture)
2, 2.4 (engine type 2.4 or 2.2) 3, N (is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N)) 4, 110.000 km (no failure!) (vehicle milage at first shaft failure, or current milage on the original shaft if still running). If the shaft has previously failed, please answer 5 & 6. 5, Y (Has an Ashcroft modified part has been fitted? (Y/N)) Because I had the t-box out to inspect the shaft, I replaced with the Ashcroft kit (not necessary, see photo attached) When the shaft came out, it was bone-dry and covered in red dust. Looked ok, no play in the coupling. Has anyone replaced the shaft on the garage floor? What a pig of a job..... 
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15th Jul 2018 3:18pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300  
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on shaft number 4 now.
Ans, 1 MY11 (actual Nov'11) - sorry that should be (Nov'10), 2 2.4 3 N 4 25k 5 N 6 60k Last edited by Caterham on 4th Jan 2022 12:39pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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15th Jul 2018 4:13pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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1, 2011
2, engine type 2.4 3, Being changed as we speak 4, 60,000 5, Ashcroft modified part Not allowed, being redone by LR Dealer Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Jul 2018 5:13pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1428 
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I'm aware that our 'sample size' is still low and it is far too early for conclusions, but patterns are emerging.
Any suggestions of things to look for or known trends in the failures, please mention it. After the latest replies, and looking at the age of the vehicles, 3 typical distribution patterns are emerging for manufacturing years and failure mileage. Most replies with failures of 2009 to 2011 vehicles happened between 50,000 and 70,000 miles. Early failures can happen between 25,000 and 30,000 miles, starting with 2011 vehicles through to 2015. Worryingly, this failure seems to repeat itself, 2 members report multiple failures at this frequency. Click image to enlarge Then the 'frequency' of the chart stands out. Different failure groups at 25-30K, 50-60K and 75-90K. That could be a step too far to make a theory yet. What I would like is feedback on the Ashcroft shafts, how long have they lasted? It would be good to prove one way or the other if they do last longer than the original. Also the multiple failures, if you've had 2 or more please send the mileage of each failure. Repeated failure at the same or similar miles would be very useful if we can prove it happens. Cheers. |
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15th Jul 2018 11:09pm |
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| pme Member Since: 06 Jan 2016 Location: cambridge and mainly ariege Posts: 49 
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MY2007
2.4 original shaft 110,000km |
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16th Jul 2018 12:39pm |
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| Scoobeenut Member Since: 04 Mar 2015 Location: West London Posts: 310 
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1. 2010
2. 2.4 3. N 4. 19000 miles |
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16th Jul 2018 12:59pm |
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