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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2212  
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Just picked up on this topic and I'm totally confused by what all the worry is about .
I replace the fuel filter every 5000 miles along with oil filter . This is my service intervals and whether you do short ones or not the fuel filter is the more important of the two . So that makes 13 filters as I'm now on 65000 miles . Simply screw off , refill new filter with fuel and screw on . No airlock, no bleeding ,no problems . It is of upmost importance to use Genuine filters ( always ) Keith |
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31st Aug 2017 8:21am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665  
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Or maybe if you have a fuel leak, or run to a dry tank... for a few £ a home made bleed tool is a good investment IMHO...
It also makes the filter change quite easy... saves slopping around with a can of diesel... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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31st Aug 2017 8:51am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353 
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I extended my tank breather (essential on an '07 anyway since the original terminates behind the NSR wheel where it ingests crud and moisture) up to the rear buck, behind the NSR light protector panel. If I need to bleed the system I simply blow down the breather and slightly pressurise the tank. Althernatively I can pop a Schrader valve in the end of the breather pipe and use a tyre pump.
I don't understand why you think in this case that a new filter, prefilled with diesel, won't work just as well. You still wouldn't need to bleed. Anyway, my first approach in this case would actually be to warm the filter to dewax the fuel. |
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31st Aug 2017 9:00am |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 298 
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Heating the filter was my first option as mentioned on the below thread.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/post600188.html#600188 Topping up replacement filter with warm fuel still didn't help. The engine wouldn't fire up until it was bled. I don't fancy playing the same games again this winter, hence why I am making my own bleed tooling. |
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31st Aug 2017 9:51am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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I appreciate that people have their own favourite method, whether prefilling the filter, or pressurizing the tank... Especially when the formal LR tool is so expensive.
However if you can easily make a low-cost tool to do the job, it's simple, quick, and less messy (IMHO) to use a bleed tool. It also eradicates the possibility of dirt getting in by having unfiltered diesel in the new filter when it's installed... After all...the bleeding method is the correct method as defined by the workshop manual... I am happy with my £20 tool. I can also carry it around under the passenger seat if it's needed whilst I am travelling (like if I run out of fuel). Each to their own I guess... the wonderful diversity and experience on this forum  Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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31st Aug 2017 10:13am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353
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Interesting, and useful real-life experience. Thanks. |
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31st Aug 2017 11:35am |
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| expatRob Member Since: 24 Feb 2015 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 58  
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Great workaround Martin. WOrked for me today.
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4th Sep 2017 6:07pm |
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| tuesdayfox Member Since: 23 Jun 2013 Location: Sydney,OZ Posts: 129 
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The 2.2 has a lift pump.
So no bleeding required for the 2.2? Cheers |
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8th Sep 2017 8:02am |
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| TopQ1967 Member Since: 14 Feb 2012 Location: Veghel Posts: 236  
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Correct 2.2 no need to bleed
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8th Sep 2017 3:27pm |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 298
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I turned down fitting P/N LR019009 so it fits inside the fuel supply coupling.
Its a fraction to thin so won't seal, back to the drawing board.. Has anyone got the correct male end fitting P/N? The fuel supply tube to the pump is P/N LR031351, but I cannot find the "Male" end fitting on its own. |
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11th Sep 2017 8:00pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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Mark - been digging - have a look at LR006249 or LR016979 and see what you think?
I don't speak much French at all, but https://www.forum4x4.org/archive/index.php/t-142259.html looks interesting... (he says part LR006249 includes a male and a female connector ... price around £12 
shows his tool here Click image to enlarge Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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12th Sep 2017 9:02am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8010  
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So from reading this am i right in thinking to change a 2.4 Fuel filter if you refill the new fitler prior to fitting no bleeding tool or bleeding is required? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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14th Sep 2017 12:50pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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James - it seems many people manage it that way - fill the new filter with diesel, then swap them asap... They are a bayonet fit, but access is limited unless you remove the wheel
Fuel starts coming out of the lines as soon as you remove the old filter... it's a bit messy... Ideally you need to minimize any air getting into the system I made the tool as a precaution in case I ever run out of fuel, plus TBH I think it's easier (and the pump/tool is the workshop-manual recommendation) and more reliable... If you even need to do work on the fuel tank or delivery systems this could be invaluable... You can build your own tool for ~£20, but the LR-own tool is IIRC £180... !!! Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) Last edited by MartinK on 18th Sep 2017 2:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Sep 2017 12:53pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8010
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thanks Martin, that's great, i will look into making a tool i think, will read this in detail later. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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14th Sep 2017 1:03pm |
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