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Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
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2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

VeeTee wrote:
custom90steve wrote:

What options are there? Is it just Boomslang and Landreziger or what ever its called?

As a matter of fact, I just found out Land Rover issued a Technical Bulletin on the subject of faulty headlight switch due to too high current (the document in Dutch is is LTB00467), the repair has even a genuine Land Rover Part No. LR030390.
Interestingly, the Tech Bulletin says it concerns only VIN numbers 7A732615-BA412050 from years 2007-2011. I thought the problem (and construction of the switch) did not change after 2011?

Couldn't read this.
What does it mean?...Does it mean that Defenders subsequent to the mentioned Vins have been upgraded etc so no longer have a switch issue?
Pickles.

15th Sep 2016 9:53pm

Sadi

Member Since: 23 Jul 2015
Location: Windhoek
Posts: 334

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green

I know the Td5 had a similar problem with the switch - which was pre 2007.

If someone with a post 2011 model could measure the voltage at the headlamp it could provide the answer - whether the issue was addressed or not.

The procedure described here is exactly what the commercial headlight loom does.

16th Sep 2016 5:11am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

VeeTee wrote:
custom90steve wrote:

What options are there? Is it just Boomslang and Landreziger or what ever its called?

As a matter of fact, I just found out Land Rover issued a Technical Bulletin on the subject of faulty headlight switch due to too high current (the document in Dutch is is LTB00467), the repair has even a genuine Land Rover Part No. LR030390.
Interestingly, the Tech Bulletin says it concerns only VIN numbers 7A732615-BA412050 from years 2007-2011. I thought the problem (and construction of the switch) did not change after 2011?

Interesting, but when reading this, it is clear that the Landreiziger loom is a much simpler and better piece of engineering design than the Land Rover solution. Landreiziger all connects simply under the bonnet, while with Land Rover you have to dismantle steering wheel, half the steering column surrounds, split wires, feed them from cabin to engine compartment, etc. They even make you take out the coins tray.

But of course, Land Rover engineers in all their wisdom will have it right here, Landreiziger must have missed some important things in their simple design. I guess I have to start worrying now about what my Dutch solution can do bad to my truck.

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16th Sep 2016 6:15am

Sadi

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16th Sep 2016 8:44am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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All the jist really is, is A, keep it simple, B, take current direct from battery for less voltage drop, C, reduce current through switch to mA's instead of nearly 10A.

Quite why this wasn't does as standard I don't know...

Relay switching is basic but to directly switch current is a very outdated solution, abd nearly 10A is fairly high. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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16th Sep 2016 9:14am

VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
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customsteve wrote:

...but to directly switch current is a very outdated solution...

... that's very in line then with the Defender, isn't it?

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16th Sep 2016 9:21am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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True, but the design isn't particularly faulty.

Then again, could that be contested?..

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16th Sep 2016 9:58am

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

There wouldn't be any problem with the stock switch and wiring if the switch was beefy enough and the cables were of sufficient grade.

Effectively all a relay is is a remote control switch.

16th Sep 2016 10:30am

Keith5

Member Since: 27 May 2016
Location: Scotland
Posts: 352

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

Fitted the Boomslang loom (from Paddock) this evening. Put the earth to the front wing bolts and ran the live along the chassis to the battery box.

Took about 40 mins altogether and my only issue is that I've needed to run the conduit across the top of the fan cowl as I couldn't get it fed through underneath in the time I had available. I suspect when I decide what I am doing with the headlights and have it open again I will try to find a better route to the drivers side lamp.

Not sure if its wishful thinking but even with the standard bulbs and lenses it seems brighter. Keith

17th Sep 2016 8:04pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
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^ sounds good

17th Sep 2016 8:09pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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I can't remember where I routed my spots permanent live, I know it was in convoluted tube but I think it was the inner wing.
Quite a bit of theadong involved then unde and in.
Definitely needs to be fused near the battery and not at the front otherwise you've got an unprotected cable run.

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17th Sep 2016 8:21pm

VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
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I connected the permanent live of the kit directly to the alternator B+. Easier than routing to the battery box (at least on my 300Tdi - I know it's bit awkward on the Puma).

17th Sep 2016 8:30pm

Keith5

Member Since: 27 May 2016
Location: Scotland
Posts: 352

The kit has an inline fuse at the end where the live termination is made, for me (with the most direct threaded route) this sits just inside the battery box.

I have my LED front spots switched off a relay in the drivers side front wing and wired with 2.5mm cable (live and earth) back to my aux fuse board under the drivers seat.

I'm sure that I can get a better route between the 2 headlight units, just not sure what yet. Keith

17th Sep 2016 8:39pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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VeeTee wrote:
I connected the permanent live of the kit directly to the alternator B+. Easier than routing to the battery box (at least on my 300Tdi - I know it's bit awkward on the Puma).

That is the best option for the Puma too.

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18th Sep 2016 3:52am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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I'm not sure to alternator would be the best spot though for fault finding if the fuse went and say someone was tracing it for you.
Also not waterproof, but then again suppose none of it is.

Personally I'd use larger grade cable so no voltage loss and go back to battery, to do a proper job fit a fuse box in too.

None, the less no right or wrong was everyone's personal choice.

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18th Sep 2016 11:09am

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