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Matt110



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Speedo transducer leaking
Hi all.

This..... Leaks. A lot.

I've taken the sensor off it.

Are my worst fears true in that it tightens from the other side inside the housing that the hand brake drum bolts to?

If so how do I get to it? I can't find anything on what's on the inside. I can feel it's loose just with fingers and you can see the oil moving so that's clearly the leak path.

All thought appreciated. Thanks.



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Mo Murphy



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That's the speedo drive, get a wood chisel under the lip and prise the thimble out, remove the drive gear, replace O ring, replace.
Easy peasy.
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hank



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Should come out that way

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Matt110



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Thanks Mo.

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Matt110



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Thanks Hank, great diagram there much appreciated.
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Matt110



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Thought I'd share the reason for my leak...

Super worn shaft on the internal oil shaft seal.

Photos below.

I'll order a new one so the shaft is new and ungrooved and won't leak I think and change the O ring also in the process.

You can just about make it out in the photos.

Thanks for the advice guys.



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LandymanStefan



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Think im going to need to do this on mine. Leaks a fair bit but havent had a chance to check it yet.
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Matt110



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I'm currently trying to figure out which bits are serviced and which aren't.

This is a close up of the shaft so I need a new speed sense shaft (pitted) and a new oil seal, them a new O-ring the right size to refit it all.



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Mo Murphy



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I'd change the seal and o ring, Matt, and see how you get on.
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I agree just change the seals and put it back in. Also check your breather there should be no pressure in the t-case, and a new seal should work just fine. Thumbs Up good luck 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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LandymanStefan



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Matt did you get round to fixing this? If so which parts did you buy. It’d be good if I can order the bits before taking mine apart.

Had a little look at my situation yesterday...


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Matt110



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Yeah looks identical to ours.

I ordered all the bits and fitted but don't yet know if it's fixed as our MOT isn't booked till the end of the week. But it's now all new so it should do.

I fitted a new oil seal, a new O-ring, and due to my Speedo shaft being pitted where the seal runs, a new Speedo gear and shaft. My logic was that the oil seal would have a hard time sealing against a pitted shaft.

Wasn't expensive.

Talk to Dan at duckworths and tell him you want the same Speedo bits he did for me and he should be able to post straight out.

This is the list...



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And it should represent the following...

Speedo gear. CHECK YOURS IS BLUE BEFORE ORDERING! (there are both blue and green and a few other colours. The LR record for what was in ours was wrong, don't go by dealer record. Whip it out, check colour of yours, then order. Mine was blue.


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The oil seal for the shaft...


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And the O-ring for the main housing. Haven't got a decent shot of that.

Do check with Dan before you order. I'm 99%sure that's the PN list but I also ordered half a dozen other things on the same invoice so there's risk I've got the wrong PNs selected.
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Matt110



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..actually the O-ring is shown in the first image on the housing outer..
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LandymanStefan



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Great thanks. Best to take it apart before then to check the gear condition/colour. I would imagine my gear has the same wear as yours if it’s leaking... we’ll see.
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